[170173] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Mon Mar 24 21:35:24 2014
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAP-guGUR+qcECPBOQEcBCbE0BGosKRM4xS2XnOD=Um874AG7YQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:39:09 -0700
To: William Herrin <bill@herrin.us>
Cc: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:36 PM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Justin M. Streiner
> <streiner@cluebyfour.org> wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014, William Herrin wrote:
>>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Justin M. Streiner
>>> <streiner@cluebyfour.org> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> All of these 'Hail Mary' options for 'saving' IPv4 really are =
pointless.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> IPv4 is like the U.S. Penny. It'll be useless long before it goes
>>> away. And right now it's far from useless.
>>=20
>> Interesting analogy, but it misses the larger point. The larger =
point is
>> that the ongoing effort to squeeze more mileage out of IPv4 will soon =
[1]
>> outweigh the mileage we (collectively) get out of it.
>=20
> Hi Justin,
>=20
> That's what I hear. Interesting thing though: it hasn't happened yet.
> IANA ran out of /8's and it didn't happen. The RIRs dropped to
> high-conservation mode on their final allocations and it didn't
> happen. How could that be?
I disagree with your assertion that it hasn=92t happened. It _IS_ =
happening.
The cost of maintaining IPv4 is already going up and the increases will =
continue to become more dramatic over time.
Owen
