[187662] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jason Bothe)
Thu Feb 18 09:05:32 2016
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From: Jason Bothe <jason@rice.edu>
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:04:44 -0600
To: Josh Reynolds <josh@kyneticwifi.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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We have run into issues with GRES, and I think its an issue with the RE =
we have. I don=E2=80=99t actually perform the tasks so it may or may =
not be as big of an issue as I initially stated.
Jason Bothe, Manager of Networking
Rice University
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jason@rice.edu =
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> On 18, Feb 2016, at 7:59 AM, Josh Reynolds <josh@kyneticwifi.com> =
wrote:
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> With GRES, can't you simply set the master RE as backup, apply =
firmware, then switch back to master and upgrade the backup RE?
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> On Feb 18, 2016 7:57 AM, "Jason Bothe" <jason@rice.edu =
<mailto:jason@rice.edu>> wrote:
> We have both and they=E2=80=99re both great boxes, however it=E2=80=99s =
sort of embarrassing that the ASR9k still can=E2=80=99t do virtualized =
routing, ie. logical-systems. Not sure if thats a deal breaker for you =
but just thought you=E2=80=99d like to beware. We also find OS =
configurations on the Juniper much easier than the cumbersome XR OS =
that the Cisco runs. The 9k does however get a huge win with the =
ability to apply a =E2=80=98pie=E2=80=99 or software patch while staying =
in service vs requiring a reload. Either way, I don=E2=80=99t think =
you=E2=80=99ll go wrong.
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> Jason Bothe, Manager of Networking
> Rice University
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> jason@rice.edu =
<mailto:jason@rice.edu> <mailto:ason@rice.edu <mailto:ason@rice.edu>>
> > On 18, Feb 2016, at 7:45 AM, Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com =
<mailto:colton.conor@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I would like opinions of the differences between these two platforms =
if
> > possible.
> >
> > I was going to buy a used Juniper MX960 Router MX960-PREMIUM2-AC-ECM =
with
> > 2 x RE-S-1800X4-16G and 3 x SCBE-MX-S. Then I was going to load =
this up
> > with a couple of older DPCE-R-4XGE-XFP 4x10GE DPC Enhanced cards.
> >
> > Now Cisco has offered me a new ASR9010 with dual ASR9K Route Switch
> > Processor with 440G/slot Fabric and 6GB, and two 4X10GE / 16X1G =
Combo
> > Linecard, Packet Transport Optimized for about the same price as the =
used
> > Juniper. The only catch is the Cisco's support and warranty looks
> > very expensive per year, but that's hard to compare since a used =
Juniper
> > has zero support and warranty included.
> >
> >
> > If these were both brand new with support and warranty which would =
you
> > choose? If it were the used Juniper vs new Cisco which would you =
choose?
> >
> > I know Juniper makes newer MIC cards that probably better compete =
with
> > these Cisco cards, but that is not option due to price.
> >
> > New, Juniper wants to sell me a MX104 for the same price that I can =
get
> > this Cisco ASR9010. I think that is a no brainer to go with the ASR =
at that
> > point. I asked for new pricing on a MX240/480/960, but that was not =
even
> > close to the ASR9010 numbers.
> >
> > I can also buy two ASR 9001's for the same price and as the single =
ASR9010.
> >
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