[187663] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Josh Reynolds)
Thu Feb 18 09:09:07 2016
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:09:05 -0600
From: Josh Reynolds <josh@kyneticwifi.com>
To: Jason Bothe <jason@rice.edu>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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Yeah, you might look into that. We're about to put 3 x MX960s in service
and with GRES and NSR we are not dropping traffic when taking the master RE
down.
On Feb 18, 2016 8:05 AM, "Jason Bothe" <jason@rice.edu> wrote:
> We have run into issues with GRES, and I think its an issue with the RE w=
e
> have. I don=E2=80=99t actually perform the tasks so it may or may not be=
as big of
> an issue as I initially stated.
>
>
>
> Jason Bothe, Manager of Networking
> Rice University
> o +1 713 348 5500
> m +1 713 703 3552
> jason@rice.edu <ason@rice.edu>
>
> On 18, Feb 2016, at 7:59 AM, Josh Reynolds <josh@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
> With GRES, can't you simply set the master RE as backup, apply firmware,
> then switch back to master and upgrade the backup RE?
> On Feb 18, 2016 7:57 AM, "Jason Bothe" <jason@rice.edu> wrote:
>
>> We have both and they=E2=80=99re both great boxes, however it=E2=80=99s =
sort of
>> embarrassing that the ASR9k still can=E2=80=99t do virtualized routing, =
ie.
>> logical-systems. Not sure if thats a deal breaker for you but just thou=
ght
>> you=E2=80=99d like to beware. We also find OS configurations on the Jun=
iper much
>> easier than the cumbersome XR OS that the Cisco runs. The 9k does howe=
ver
>> get a huge win with the ability to apply a =E2=80=98pie=E2=80=99 or soft=
ware patch while
>> staying in service vs requiring a reload. Either way, I don=E2=80=99t =
think
>> you=E2=80=99ll go wrong.
>>
>>
>> J~
>>
>>
>> Jason Bothe, Manager of Networking
>> Rice University
>> o +1 713 348 5500
>> m +1 713 703 3552
>> jason@rice.edu <mailto:
>> ason@rice.edu>
>> > On 18, Feb 2016, at 7:45 AM, Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I would like opinions of the differences between these two platforms i=
f
>> > possible.
>> >
>> > I was going to buy a used Juniper MX960 Router MX960-PREMIUM2-AC-ECM
>> with
>> > 2 x RE-S-1800X4-16G and 3 x SCBE-MX-S. Then I was going to load this =
up
>> > with a couple of older DPCE-R-4XGE-XFP 4x10GE DPC Enhanced cards.
>> >
>> > Now Cisco has offered me a new ASR9010 with dual ASR9K Route Switch
>> > Processor with 440G/slot Fabric and 6GB, and two 4X10GE / 16X1G Combo
>> > Linecard, Packet Transport Optimized for about the same price as the
>> used
>> > Juniper. The only catch is the Cisco's support and warranty looks
>> > very expensive per year, but that's hard to compare since a used Junip=
er
>> > has zero support and warranty included.
>> >
>> >
>> > If these were both brand new with support and warranty which would you
>> > choose? If it were the used Juniper vs new Cisco which would you choos=
e?
>> >
>> > I know Juniper makes newer MIC cards that probably better compete with
>> > these Cisco cards, but that is not option due to price.
>> >
>> > New, Juniper wants to sell me a MX104 for the same price that I can ge=
t
>> > this Cisco ASR9010. I think that is a no brainer to go with the ASR at
>> that
>> > point. I asked for new pricing on a MX240/480/960, but that was not ev=
en
>> > close to the ASR9010 numbers.
>> >
>> > I can also buy two ASR 9001's for the same price and as the single
>> ASR9010.
>> >
>>
>>
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