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Re: Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Josh Reynolds)
Thu Feb 18 08:59:39 2016

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 07:59:36 -0600
From: Josh Reynolds <josh@kyneticwifi.com>
To: Jason Bothe <jason@rice.edu>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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With GRES, can't you simply set the master RE as backup, apply firmware,
then switch back to master and upgrade the backup RE?
On Feb 18, 2016 7:57 AM, "Jason Bothe" <jason@rice.edu> wrote:

> We have both and they=E2=80=99re both great boxes, however it=E2=80=99s s=
ort of
> embarrassing that the ASR9k still can=E2=80=99t do virtualized routing, i=
e.
> logical-systems.  Not sure if thats a deal breaker for you but just thoug=
ht
> you=E2=80=99d like to beware.  We also find OS configurations on the Juni=
per much
> easier than the cumbersome  XR OS that the Cisco runs.  The 9k does howev=
er
> get a huge win with the ability to apply a =E2=80=98pie=E2=80=99 or softw=
are patch while
> staying in service vs requiring a reload.   Either way, I don=E2=80=99t t=
hink
> you=E2=80=99ll go wrong.
>
>
> J~
>
>
> Jason Bothe, Manager of Networking
> Rice University
>                                o   +1 713 348 5500
>                                m  +1 713 703 3552
>                                       jason@rice.edu <mailto:ason@rice.ed=
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> >
> > On 18, Feb 2016, at 7:45 AM, Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I would like opinions of the differences between these two platforms if
> > possible.
> >
> > I was going to buy a used Juniper MX960 Router MX960-PREMIUM2-AC-ECM wi=
th
> > 2 x RE-S-1800X4-16G  and 3 x SCBE-MX-S. Then I was going to load this u=
p
> > with a couple of older DPCE-R-4XGE-XFP 4x10GE DPC Enhanced cards.
> >
> > Now Cisco has offered me a new ASR9010 with dual ASR9K Route Switch
> > Processor with 440G/slot Fabric and 6GB, and two 4X10GE / 16X1G Combo
> > Linecard, Packet Transport Optimized for about the same price as the us=
ed
> > Juniper. The only catch is the Cisco's support and warranty looks
> > very expensive per year, but that's hard to compare since a used Junipe=
r
> > has zero support and warranty included.
> >
> >
> > If these were both brand new with support and warranty which would you
> > choose? If it were the used Juniper vs new Cisco which would you choose=
?
> >
> > I know Juniper makes newer MIC cards that probably better compete with
> > these Cisco cards, but that is not option due to price.
> >
> > New, Juniper wants to sell me a MX104 for the same price that I can get
> > this Cisco ASR9010. I think that is a no brainer to go with the ASR at
> that
> > point. I asked for new pricing on a MX240/480/960, but that was not eve=
n
> > close to the ASR9010 numbers.
> >
> > I can also buy two ASR 9001's for the same price and as the single
> ASR9010.
> >
>
>

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