[187660] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jason Bothe)
Thu Feb 18 08:55:49 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Jason Bothe <jason@rice.edu>
In-Reply-To: <CAMDdSzMJT4DdXjq68xXyQmBJRHn2rj-JkkYLAJUXu1yzuqj1CQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 07:55:44 -0600
To: Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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We have both and they=E2=80=99re both great boxes, however it=E2=80=99s =
sort of embarrassing that the ASR9k still can=E2=80=99t do virtualized =
routing, ie. logical-systems. Not sure if thats a deal breaker for you =
but just thought you=E2=80=99d like to beware. We also find OS =
configurations on the Juniper much easier than the cumbersome XR OS =
that the Cisco runs. The 9k does however get a huge win with the =
ability to apply a =E2=80=98pie=E2=80=99 or software patch while staying =
in service vs requiring a reload. Either way, I don=E2=80=99t think =
you=E2=80=99ll go wrong.
J~
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> On 18, Feb 2016, at 7:45 AM, Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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> I would like opinions of the differences between these two platforms =
if
> possible.
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> I was going to buy a used Juniper MX960 Router MX960-PREMIUM2-AC-ECM =
with
> 2 x RE-S-1800X4-16G and 3 x SCBE-MX-S. Then I was going to load this =
up
> with a couple of older DPCE-R-4XGE-XFP 4x10GE DPC Enhanced cards.
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> Now Cisco has offered me a new ASR9010 with dual ASR9K Route Switch
> Processor with 440G/slot Fabric and 6GB, and two 4X10GE / 16X1G Combo
> Linecard, Packet Transport Optimized for about the same price as the =
used
> Juniper. The only catch is the Cisco's support and warranty looks
> very expensive per year, but that's hard to compare since a used =
Juniper
> has zero support and warranty included.
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> If these were both brand new with support and warranty which would you
> choose? If it were the used Juniper vs new Cisco which would you =
choose?
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> I know Juniper makes newer MIC cards that probably better compete with
> these Cisco cards, but that is not option due to price.
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> New, Juniper wants to sell me a MX104 for the same price that I can =
get
> this Cisco ASR9010. I think that is a no brainer to go with the ASR at =
that
> point. I asked for new pricing on a MX240/480/960, but that was not =
even
> close to the ASR9010 numbers.
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> I can also buy two ASR 9001's for the same price and as the single =
ASR9010.
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