[186542] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IPv4 shutdown in mobile
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ca By)
Tue Dec 22 13:08:16 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <D3164172-EEEE-4D13-8C4A-39E04C41087E@delong.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:08:13 -0800
From: Ca By <cb.list6@gmail.com>
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
On Tuesday, December 22, 2015, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
> Does this mean you are negligent for not supporting IPv6 on my phone on
> your network?
>
> My phone is perfectly capable of IPv6, yet because it doesn=E2=80=99t sup=
port your
> particular religion
> about IPv4 translation, you refuse to support IPv6 on it.
>
> When is T-Mobile going to fix their IPv6 implementation and stop ignoring
> the #1 market
> leading phone manufacturer?
>
> Owen
>
>
Apple has an ipv6-only plan in the link above. They have committed to
remove the ipv4 dependent apps from the app store. Once the ipv4-only apps
are bannished, i dont see any roadblocks for ipv6 on iPhone.
While you say there is a religious war, i am saying Apple outlined a plan
for ipv6-only and T-Mobile is likely to follow that plan from Apple.
CB
> > On Dec 22, 2015, at 04:45 , Ca By <cb.list6@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >
> > TL;DR version: the data shows you are negligent if your eyeball content
> > (cdn, cloud, ...) does not support native ipv6.
> >
> > With the NAT and IPv4 leasing threads lingering on, i figured it was ti=
me
> > for an update on how the other half live
> >
> > More than 1/3 of North America mobile traffic to the top websites is en=
d
> to
> > end ipv6
> >
> http://www.worldipv6launch.org/2015-wrapup-more-than-13-us-mobile-traffic=
-is-ipv6-and-still-growing/
> >
> > The trend is clearly growing, and as AT&T and Sprint catch up with
> T-Mobile
> > and Verizon, the acceleration to 50% should be easily achieved.
> > Furthermore, only one mobile carrier has iPhone dual-stacked today
> (afaik),
> > but Apple has a plan for banning ipv4-only apps and has delivered the
> > required features for having ipv6-only iphones in 2016 with these iOS 9=
.2
> > features
> >
> >
> https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/NetworkingInternetW=
eb/Conceptual/NetworkingOverview/UnderstandingandPreparingfortheIPv6Transit=
ion/UnderstandingandPreparingfortheIPv6Transition.html
> >
> > On some mobile providers, ipv6 is already dominant and ipv4 is waning.
> Once
> > iPhones updates to ipv6-only as described above, ipv4 will only be a
> corner
> > case of operations. This comes with added benefit that ipv6 is faster =
:
> >
> >
> https://code.facebook.com/posts/1192894270727351/ipv6-it-s-time-to-get-on=
-board/
> >
> > At least in mobile, the change to ipv6 has been quick and the pace is
> > increasing -- not just on ipv6 deployment but also on ipv4 shutdown. I
> know
> > many people liken ipv6 to "the boy who cried wolf", so be it, the
> > data shows the ipv6 wolf is here. Or perhapsin hind sight, we will s=
ee
> > the right metaphor was "the tortoise and the hare" or "the little engin=
e
> > that could"... Or even better IPv4 is John Henry. It was the best in i=
ts
> > time, but times have changed.
> >
> > CB
>
>
