[186540] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IPv4 shutdown in mobile
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Tue Dec 22 12:58:32 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAD6AjGQwyMm3pMRwjU3fVK5r4hm8n0KLFHfQ1k4bd+jfu5mZbw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:57:27 -0800
To: Ca By <cb.list6@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
Does this mean you are negligent for not supporting IPv6 on my phone on =
your network?
My phone is perfectly capable of IPv6, yet because it doesn=E2=80=99t =
support your particular religion
about IPv4 translation, you refuse to support IPv6 on it.
When is T-Mobile going to fix their IPv6 implementation and stop =
ignoring the #1 market
leading phone manufacturer?
Owen
> On Dec 22, 2015, at 04:45 , Ca By <cb.list6@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> TL;DR version: the data shows you are negligent if your eyeball =
content
> (cdn, cloud, ...) does not support native ipv6.
>=20
> With the NAT and IPv4 leasing threads lingering on, i figured it was =
time
> for an update on how the other half live
>=20
> More than 1/3 of North America mobile traffic to the top websites is =
end to
> end ipv6
> =
http://www.worldipv6launch.org/2015-wrapup-more-than-13-us-mobile-traffic-=
is-ipv6-and-still-growing/
>=20
> The trend is clearly growing, and as AT&T and Sprint catch up with =
T-Mobile
> and Verizon, the acceleration to 50% should be easily achieved.
> Furthermore, only one mobile carrier has iPhone dual-stacked today =
(afaik),
> but Apple has a plan for banning ipv4-only apps and has delivered the
> required features for having ipv6-only iphones in 2016 with these iOS =
9.2
> features
>=20
> =
https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/NetworkingInternetWe=
b/Conceptual/NetworkingOverview/UnderstandingandPreparingfortheIPv6Transit=
ion/UnderstandingandPreparingfortheIPv6Transition.html
>=20
> On some mobile providers, ipv6 is already dominant and ipv4 is waning. =
Once
> iPhones updates to ipv6-only as described above, ipv4 will only be a =
corner
> case of operations. This comes with added benefit that ipv6 is faster =
:
>=20
> =
https://code.facebook.com/posts/1192894270727351/ipv6-it-s-time-to-get-on-=
board/
>=20
> At least in mobile, the change to ipv6 has been quick and the pace is
> increasing -- not just on ipv6 deployment but also on ipv4 shutdown. I =
know
> many people liken ipv6 to "the boy who cried wolf", so be it, the
> data shows the ipv6 wolf is here. Or perhapsin hind sight, we will =
see
> the right metaphor was "the tortoise and the hare" or "the little =
engine
> that could"... Or even better IPv4 is John Henry. It was the best in =
its
> time, but times have changed.
>=20
> CB
