[170177] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Mon Mar 24 21:39:08 2014
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <20140323051037.94159.qmail@joyce.lan>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:54:18 -0700
To: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Mar 22, 2014, at 10:10 PM, John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
>>> It will be a long time
>>> before the price of v4 rises high enough to make it
>>> worth the risk of going v6 only.
>>=20
>> New ISP's are born everyday.
>>=20
>> Some of them will be able to have a "Buy an ISP that has=20
>> IPv4" or "Buy IPv4 space from known brokers" line item in=20
>> their budget as part of their launch plans.
>>=20
>> Most won't.
>=20
> In Africa, I suppose, but here in North America, the few remaining
> ISPs that aren't part of giant cable or phone companies are hanging on
> by their teeth.
>=20
> Also, although it is fashionable to say how awful CGN is, the users
> don't seem to mind it at all.
>=20
> R's,
> John
>=20
That depends on the level of service the users are already accustomed =
to.
The generally piss-poor average level of service in the US may not be as =
noticeably impacted by CGN as better services.
It also depends on the class of user. I know that I would pretty much be =
unable to continue subscribing to any provider that stuck me behind a =
CGN.
It would be interesting to get visibility into the opt-out rate for =
Verizon=92s =93Address Sharing=94 announcement.
Owen
