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Re: [APO-L] Toast Song
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Reynolds)
Mon May 24 23:49:11 2004
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 23:50:34 -0400
Reply-To: Matthew Reynolds <Matthew.Reynolds@valpo.edu>
From: Matthew Reynolds <Matthew.Reynolds@valpo.edu>
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Please someone correct me if I am wrong, I don't have a copy in front of me=
, but I believe that in=20
our Nationals By-Laws it states that all members of Alpha Phi Omega will be=
referred to as brothers=20
without regard to gender. That being said, I can not agree with Robert's an=
d other chapters=20
changing the wording to "sisters". I also know for a fact that most of our =
female actives and=20
alumni are proud to call themselves brothers.=20
Just for the record, our chapter changed "Men of" to "True to".=20
Matthew Reynolds
Zeta Gamma, President
Valparaiso University
On Mon, 24 May 2004 21:34:42 -0500 "Robert A. Rescot" <rar016@mizzou.edu> w=
rote:
> Just 2=A2 more on the toast song,
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> My chapter has been singing for sometime (with varying degrees of
> acceptance) "loyal members we... brothers clasp the hand of sisters...tr=
ue
> to Alpha Phi Omega may we always be..." our full version is on our chapt=
er
> website at HYPERLINK
> "http://students.missouri.edu/~apo/toastsong.php"http://students.missouri=
.ed
> u/~apo/toastsong.php if anyone is interested
> =20
> Robert Rescot
> Beta Eta, President
> University of Missouri - Columbia
> Go Tigers!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alpha Phi Omega Discussion List [mailto:APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU] O=
n
> Behalf Of Michael Gallagher
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 8:16 PM
> To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
> Subject: Re: [APO-L] Toast Song
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> But its bisyllabic whereas "men" is monosyllabic. that's why I recommend
> "kin." Anybody agree? Those of you who disagree & haven't told me so &
> why, feel free to send comments to me. My inbox is slowly decreasing in
> size so I think it should be OK.
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> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: HYPERLINK "mailto:moonbug76@yahoo.com"Jason Rice=20
> To: HYPERLINK "mailto:APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU"APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU=
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> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 8:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [APO-L] Toast Song
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> Hmmm... just a thought on this comment, and nothing more; It seems that
> 'Brother' is a little different than 'men'.=20
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> I have found a legal precedent, I believe, to removing "men" from the Toa=
st
> Song. This would not specify what should replace it. I was reading a
> acquaintance brother's Web site, and this brother commented on how we our
> Toast Song is always an issue. This brother linked to a CNN article
> explaining a change removing "men" from the Naval Academy's Alma Mater. T=
he
> Academy went co-ed in 1976 just as we did, although I'm not sure relative=
ly
> when the first female enrolled. Here's the link:
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> http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/05/20/naval.academy.song.ap/index.html
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> Here's the supporting data (unfortunately, no decision came up in the
> search, but the words are as the article says).
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> http://www.usna.edu/USNABand/FAQ/Lyrics.htm#bluegold
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> I know this seems a bit like the 1930s or 40s Miracle on 34th Street
> reasoning, but if the Department of Defense makes such a change, shouldn't
> we? After all, government changes have spurred actions by organizations i=
n
> reactin for a very long time. Case in point our own going co-ed.
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> Michael Gallagher
> Zeta Sigma Historian (& a Political Science major)
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