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Re: [APO-L] Toast Song
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Gallagher)
Mon May 24 21:15:28 2004
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 21:15:32 -0400
Reply-To: Michael Gallagher <famtree@UDel.Edu>
From: Michael Gallagher <famtree@UDel.Edu>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
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But its bisyllabic whereas "men" is monosyllabic. that's why I =
recommend "kin." Anybody agree? Those of you who disagree & haven't =
told me so & why, feel free to send comments to me. My inbox is slowly =
decreasing in size so I think it should be OK.
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From: Jason Rice=20
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU=20
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [APO-L] Toast Song
Hmmm... just a thought on this comment, and nothing more; It seems =
that 'Brother' is a little different than 'men'.=20
I have found a legal precedent, I believe, to removing "men" from =
the Toast
Song. This would not specify what should replace it. I was reading a
acquaintance brother's Web site, and this brother commented on how =
we our
Toast Song is always an issue. This brother linked to a CNN article
explaining a change removing "men" from the Naval Academy's Alma =
Mater. The
Academy went co-ed in 1976 just as we did, although I'm not sure =
relatively
when the first female enrolled. Here's the link:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/05/20/naval.academy.song.ap/index.html
Here's the supporting data (unfortunately, no decision came up in =
the
search, but the words are as the article says).
http://www.usna.edu/USNABand/FAQ/Lyrics.htm#bluegold
I know this seems a bit like the 1930s or 40s Miracle on 34th Street
reasoning, but if the Department of Defense makes such a change, =
shouldn't
we? After all, government changes have spurred actions by =
organizations in
reactin for a very long time. Case in point our own going co-ed.
Michael Gallagher
Zeta Sigma Historian (& a Political Science major)
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<DIV>Hmmm... just a thought on this comment, and nothing more; It =
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'Brother' is a little different than 'men'. </DIV>
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have found a legal precedent, I believe, to removing "men" from the=20
Toast<BR>Song. This would not specify what should replace it. I was =
reading=20
a<BR>acquaintance brother's Web site, and this brother commented on =
how we=20
our<BR>Toast Song is always an issue. This brother linked to a CNN=20
article<BR>explaining a change removing "men" from the Naval =
Academy's Alma=20
Mater. The<BR>Academy went co-ed in 1976 just as we did, although =
I'm not=20
sure relatively<BR>when the first female enrolled. Here's the=20
=
link:<BR><BR>http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/05/20/naval.academy.song.ap/index=
.html<BR><BR>Here's=20
the supporting data (unfortunately, no decision came up in =
the<BR>search,=20
but the words are as the article=20
=
says).<BR><BR>http://www.usna.edu/USNABand/FAQ/Lyrics.htm#bluegold<BR><BR=
>I=20
know this seems a bit like the 1930s or 40s Miracle on 34th=20
Street<BR>reasoning, but if the Department of Defense makes such a =
change,=20
shouldn't<BR>we? After all, government changes have spurred actions =
by=20
organizations in<BR>reactin for a very long time. Case in point our =
own=20
going co-ed.<BR><BR>Michael Gallagher<BR>Zeta Sigma Historian (& =
a=20
Political Science major)</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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