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Re: [APO-L] Toast Song
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jason Rice)
Mon May 24 20:20:51 2004
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 17:20:47 -0700
Reply-To: Jason Rice <moonbug76@yahoo.com>
From: Jason Rice <moonbug76@yahoo.com>
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Hmmm... just a thought on this comment, and nothing more; It seems that 'Brother' is a little different than 'men'.
I have found a legal precedent, I believe, to removing "men" from the Toast
Song. This would not specify what should replace it. I was reading a
acquaintance brother's Web site, and this brother commented on how we our
Toast Song is always an issue. This brother linked to a CNN article
explaining a change removing "men" from the Naval Academy's Alma Mater. The
Academy went co-ed in 1976 just as we did, although I'm not sure relatively
when the first female enrolled. Here's the link:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/05/20/naval.academy.song.ap/index.html
Here's the supporting data (unfortunately, no decision came up in the
search, but the words are as the article says).
http://www.usna.edu/USNABand/FAQ/Lyrics.htm#bluegold
I know this seems a bit like the 1930s or 40s Miracle on 34th Street
reasoning, but if the Department of Defense makes such a change, shouldn't
we? After all, government changes have spurred actions by organizations in
reactin for a very long time. Case in point our own going co-ed.
Michael Gallagher
Zeta Sigma Historian (& a Political Science major)
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<DIV>Hmmm... just a thought on this comment, and nothing more; It seems that 'Brother' is a little different than 'men'. </DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">I have found a legal precedent, I believe, to removing "men" from the Toast<BR>Song. This would not specify what should replace it. I was reading a<BR>acquaintance brother's Web site, and this brother commented on how we our<BR>Toast Song is always an issue. This brother linked to a CNN article<BR>explaining a change removing "men" from the Naval Academy's Alma Mater. The<BR>Academy went co-ed in 1976 just as we did, although I'm not sure relatively<BR>when the first female enrolled. Here's the link:<BR><BR>http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/05/20/naval.academy.song.ap/index.html<BR><BR>Here's the supporting data (unfortunately, no decision came up in the<BR>search, but the words are as the article says).<BR><BR>http://www.usna.edu/USNABand/FAQ/Lyrics.htm#bluegold<BR><BR>I know this seems a bit like the 1930s or 40s Miracle on 34th Street<BR>reasoning, but if the Department of Defens!
e makes
such a change, shouldn't<BR>we? After all, government changes have spurred actions by organizations in<BR>reactin for a very long time. Case in point our own going co-ed.<BR><BR>Michael Gallagher<BR>Zeta Sigma Historian (& a Political Science major)</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><p>
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