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Re: Keeping the Vise on the Work Table
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Molly Kosiarek)
Fri Aug 28 21:23:48 2015
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1508282118140.9521@M66-080-2.MIT.EDU>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 21:23:44 -0400
From: Molly Kosiarek <kosiarek@mit.edu>
To: "Leonard H Tower Jr." <tower@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: Maggie Walker <mrwalker@mit.edu>, Victoria Xiao <vxiao@mit.edu>,
"benazeer@gmail.com" <benazeer@gmail.com>,
"ccrazy@panix.com" <ccrazy@panix.com>,
APO Office Manger <apo-om@mit.edu>, APO Press <apo-printshop@mit.edu>
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Yes. Vicki and I talked and we are cleaning the office while leaving the
table in its current location. It should work fine.
Molly :)
On Friday, August 28, 2015, Leonard H Tower Jr. <tower@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> Vicki:
>
> I didn't see a reply from you to Maggie on her query:
>
> "Vicki, do you think that it is possible to clean the office/ arrange
> it in a way that we keep the table until I get back on campus?"
>
> Have you?
>
> -len
>
> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:50:50 -0400
> From: Maggie Walker <mrwalker@mit.edu <javascript:;>>
> To: Victoria Xiao <vxiao@mit.edu <javascript:;>>
> Cc: "benazeer@gmail.com <javascript:;>" <benazeer@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>,
> "tower@alum.mit.edu <javascript:;>" <tower@alum.mit.edu
> <javascript:;>>,
> Margaret R Walker <mrwalker@mit.edu <javascript:;>>,
> "ccrazy@panix.com <javascript:;>" <ccrazy@panix.com <javascript:;>
> >,
> APO Office Manger <apo-om@mit.edu <javascript:;>>, APO Press <
> apo-printshop@mit.edu <javascript:;>>
> Subject: Re: Keeping the Vise on the Work Table
>
> Hello,
>
> I must confess that I did not realize how important the vise and
> worktable
> are to the print shop. Vicki, at this time, please do not remove the
> table
> or vise from the office. We will try to find a solution that benefits
> both
> the office and print shop. Vicki, do you think that it is possible to
> clean
> the office/ arrange it in a way that we keep the table until I get bac=
k
> on
> campus?
>
> Best,
> Maggie
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Victoria Xiao <vxiao@mit.edu
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> > Hi Len et al.,
> >
> > We are trying to get rid of the table the vise is on because while
> square
> > footage-wise it is small, it is inconveniently placed and we just
> don=E2=80=99t
> > have the room for it right now. We=E2=80=99ve agreed as an exec team=
that not
> > having it would be better for the office. Is it not possible to
> replace it
> > with a sawhorse-type worktable that can be disassembled when not in
> use?
> >
> > Also, if the paper cutter is not in good shape we=E2=80=99ll grunge =
it. I
> don=E2=80=99t
> > have the time or know-how to repair it and I don=E2=80=99t think tha=
t=E2=80=99s
> > particularly expensive anyways. As for the hand-turned pencil
> sharpener, we
> > can try to relocate it if you really still want to use it.
> >
> > Best,
> > Vicki
> >
> > From: Benazeer Noorani <benazeer@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > Date: Monday, August 24, 2015 at 10:53 AM
> > To: "tower@alum.mit.edu <javascript:;>" <tower@alum.mit.edu
> <javascript:;>>
> > Cc: Victoria Xiao <vxiao@mit.edu <javascript:;>>, Margaret R Walker =
<
> mrwalker@mit.edu <javascript:;>>, "
> > ccrazy@panix.com <javascript:;>" <ccrazy@panix.com <javascript:;>>,
> APO Office Manger <apo-om@mit.edu <javascript:;>>,
> > APO Press <apo-printshop@mit.edu <javascript:;>>
> > Subject: Re: Keeping the Vise on the Work Table
> >
> > For what it's worth, the paper cutter is in bad disrepair. I tried
> using
> > it to cut some cardstock last summer, and even exercising all
> possible care
> > with the tool, it just shredded my paper and made me nervous about m=
y
> > personal safety. I wouldn't use it on anything I was giving to a
> printshop
> > customer. If I recall my long-ago active days correctly, it was in b=
ad
> > disrepair circa 2001-2005 as well.
> >
> > --Benazeer
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Leonard H. Tower Jr. <
> tower@alum.mit.edu <javascript:;>
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 14:35:03 -0400
> >> From: Victoria Xiao <vxiao@mit.edu <javascript:;>>
> >> To: "tower@alum.mit.edu <javascript:;>" <tower@alum.mit.edu
> <javascript:;>>
> >> Cc: Margaret R Walker <mrwalker@mit.edu <javascript:;>>, "
> apo-om@mit.edu <javascript:;>" <
> >> apo-om@mit.edu <javascript:;>>
> >> Subject: Re: Things to consider in rearranging the APOffice
> >>
> >> Hi Len,
> >>
> >> To answer your questions:
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >>
> >> *In your other email, you mentioned the vise and. .... 2) T=
he
> >> vise as it is right now is not great for office space. We will
> >> probably be moving it and the paper cutter; let=C2=B9s talk more=
about
> >> what surfaces can be used with the vise, but the one it is on
> right
> >> now is not great for the front office.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Vicki
> >>
> >> My memory is that Vicki & I had at least one more pair of exchanges
> >> about the Vice on the Worktable. I couldn't find them. She doesn'=
t
> >> want the worktable to stay in the APOffice. She suggested that we
> just
> >> move the vise to another surface along with the paper cutter and th=
e
> >> pencil sharpener. Which isn't safe.
> >>
> >> Use of a vise is necessary and essential to maintain and repair the
> >> press shop equipment. It's useful at times for other things.
> >>
> >> To be useful for press maintenance, and for most use:
> >>
> >> * the vise needs to be near the height it is now. That is, it
> needs to
> >> be mounted at a height so it can be used while standing. It is
> >> unsafe to use it at a lower height. It is unsafe to use it
> seated or
> >> bent over. None of the other surfaces in the front APOffice are
> high
> >> enough.
> >>
> >> * the surface the vice is mounted on has to be thick, and material
> has
> >> able to hold bolts under force over time. The 'table' has to be
> >> sturdy. The object in the vise has to be held well and
> steadily. If
> >> the surface is thin or weak, it's possible for the vice to detac=
h
> >> suddenly, which is not safe.
> >>
> >> * there has to be a certain amount of working room, around it. Bu=
t
> >> that can be created on the fly, depending on how the vise is use=
d.
> >>
> >> The hand-turned pencil sharpener on the worktable is superior to th=
e
> >> electric one. You can get a sharper point with less loss of pencil
> with
> >> it. It could be relocated.
> >>
> >> It's easiest to use the paper cutter standing up at the height of t=
he
> >> worktable. It could be moved elsewhere.
> >>
> >> The worktable only takes 10 (ten) square feet of floor space.
> >> The front APOffice has over 630 square feet of floor space, which A=
PO
> >> has over 80%.
> >> So the worktable takes up about 2% (two%) of the floor space APO ha=
s.
> >> AX can't afford that floor space?
> >>
> >> We had a lengthy in-depth discussion about this in 2011(?). The la=
st
> >> time the APOffice was rearranged. Many options were considered. W=
e
> >> settled for leaving the vice on the worktable in the front
> APOffice. I
> >> could spend the time to dig that out, but time is so precious for m=
e
> >> since the head trauma. If needed, could someone else dif it out?
> >>
> >> I hope a way can be found to keep the vise on the worktable in the
> >> APOffice. The top of the table can also be used for other things a=
nd
> >> tasks. The space under could be continue to be used other storage,
> >> perhaps the ritual equipment..
> >>
> >> yiLFS -len
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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Yes. Vicki and I talked and we are cleaning the office while leaving the ta=
ble in its current location. It should work fine.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>=
Molly :)<span></span><br><br>On Friday, August 28, 2015, Leonard H Tower Jr=
. <<a href=3D"mailto:tower@alum.mit.edu">tower@alum.mit.edu</a>> wrot=
e:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Vicki:<br>
<br>
I didn't see a reply from you to Maggie on her query:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0"Vicki, do you think that it is possible to clean the office/ ar=
range<br>
=C2=A0 it in a way that we keep the table until I get back on campus?"=
<br>
<br>
Have you?<br>
<br>
-len<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:50:50 -0400<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0From: Maggie Walker <<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e=
(event, 'cvml', 'mrwalker@mit.edu')">mrwalker@mit.edu</a>&g=
t;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0To: Victoria Xiao <<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(e=
vent, 'cvml', 'vxiao@mit.edu')">vxiao@mit.edu</a>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Cc: "<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'c=
vml', 'benazeer@gmail.com')">benazeer@gmail.com</a>" <<=
a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'benazeer@=
gmail.com')">benazeer@gmail.com</a>>,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(eve=
nt, 'cvml', 'tower@alum.mit.edu')">tower@alum.mit.edu</a>&q=
uot; <<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', '=
;tower@alum.mit.edu')">tower@alum.mit.edu</a>>,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Margaret R Walker <<a href=3D"javascript:;" o=
nclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'mrwalker@mit.edu')">mrwalker@m=
it.edu</a>>,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(eve=
nt, 'cvml', 'ccrazy@panix.com')">ccrazy@panix.com</a>"=
<<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'ccr=
azy@panix.com')">ccrazy@panix.com</a>>,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0APO Office Manger <<a href=3D"javascript:;" o=
nclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'apo-om@mit.edu')">apo-om@mit.e=
du</a>>, APO Press <<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, =
9;cvml', 'apo-printshop@mit.edu')">apo-printshop@mit.edu</a>>=
;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Subject: Re: Keeping the Vise on the Work Table<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Hello,<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0I must confess that I did not realize how important the vise a=
nd worktable<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0are to the print shop. Vicki, at this time, please do not remo=
ve the table<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0or vise from the office. We will try to find a solution that b=
enefits both<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0the office and print shop. Vicki, do you think that it is poss=
ible to clean<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0the office/ arrange it in a way that we keep the table until I=
get back on<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0campus?<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Best,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Maggie<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Victoria Xiao <<a href=3D"=
javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'vxiao@mit.edu')=
">vxiao@mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> Hi Len et al.,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> We are trying to get rid of the table the vise is on beca=
use while square<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> footage-wise it is small, it is inconveniently placed and=
we just don=E2=80=99t<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> have the room for it right now. We=E2=80=99ve agreed as a=
n exec team that not<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> having it would be better for the office. Is it not possi=
ble to replace it<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> with a sawhorse-type worktable that can be disassembled w=
hen not in use?<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> Also, if the paper cutter is not in good shape we=E2=80=
=99ll grunge it. I don=E2=80=99t<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> have the time or know-how to repair it and I don=E2=80=99=
t think that=E2=80=99s<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> particularly expensive anyways. As for the hand-turned pe=
ncil sharpener, we<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> can try to relocate it if you really still want to use it=
.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> Best,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> Vicki<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> From: Benazeer Noorani <<a href=3D"javascript:;" oncli=
ck=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'benazeer@gmail.com')">benazeer@gma=
il.com</a>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> Date: Monday, August 24, 2015 at 10:53 AM<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> To: "<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, &=
#39;cvml', 'tower@alum.mit.edu')">tower@alum.mit.edu</a>" =
<<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'towe=
r@alum.mit.edu')">tower@alum.mit.edu</a>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> Cc: Victoria Xiao <<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D=
"_e(event, 'cvml', 'vxiao@mit.edu')">vxiao@mit.edu</a>>,=
Margaret R Walker <<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'c=
vml', 'mrwalker@mit.edu')">mrwalker@mit.edu</a>>, "<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> <a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml&#=
39;, 'ccrazy@panix.com')">ccrazy@panix.com</a>" <<a href=3D=
"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'ccrazy@panix.com&#=
39;)">ccrazy@panix.com</a>>, APO Office Manger <<a href=3D"javascript=
:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'apo-om@mit.edu')">apo-om@=
mit.edu</a>>,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> APO Press <<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(even=
t, 'cvml', 'apo-printshop@mit.edu')">apo-printshop@mit.edu<=
/a>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> Subject: Re: Keeping the Vise on the Work Table<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> For what it's worth, the paper cutter is in bad disre=
pair. I tried using<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> it to cut some cardstock last summer, and even exercising=
all possible care<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> with the tool, it just shredded my paper and made me nerv=
ous about my<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> personal safety. I wouldn't use it on anything I was =
giving to a printshop<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> customer. If I recall my long-ago active days correctly, =
it was in bad<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> disrepair circa 2001-2005 as well.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> --Benazeer<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Leonard H. Tower Jr. &l=
t;<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'tower@=
alum.mit.edu')">tower@alum.mit.edu</a><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> > wrote:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 14:35:03 -0400<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 From: Victoria Xiao <<a href=3D"javas=
cript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'vxiao@mit.edu')">vxi=
ao@mit.edu</a>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 To: "<a href=3D"javascript:;" oncli=
ck=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'tower@alum.mit.edu')">tower@alum.m=
it.edu</a>" <<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvm=
l', 'tower@alum.mit.edu')">tower@alum.mit.edu</a>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cc: Margaret R Walker <<a href=3D"jav=
ascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'mrwalker@mit.edu')=
">mrwalker@mit.edu</a>>, "<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(ev=
ent, 'cvml', 'apo-om@mit.edu')">apo-om@mit.edu</a>" &l=
t;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> <a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cv=
ml', 'apo-om@mit.edu')">apo-om@mit.edu</a>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Subject: Re: Things to consider in rearr=
anging the APOffice<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Hi Len,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 To answer your questions:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ...<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 *In your other email, you mentioned the =
vise and.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ....=C2=A0 =C2=A02) The<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 vise as it is right now is not great for=
office space. We will<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 probably be moving it and the paper cutt=
er; let=C2=B9s talk more about<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 what surfaces can be used with the vise,=
but the one it is on right<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 now is not great for the front office.<b=
r>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Best,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Vicki<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> My memory is that Vicki & I had at least one more=
pair of exchanges<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> about the Vice on the Worktable.=C2=A0 I couldn't=
find them.=C2=A0 She doesn't<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> want the worktable to stay in the APOffice.=C2=A0 She=
suggested that we just<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> move the vise to another surface along with the paper=
cutter and the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> pencil sharpener.=C2=A0 Which isn't safe.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> Use of a vise is necessary and essential to maintain =
and repair the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> press shop equipment.=C2=A0 It's useful at times =
for other things.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> To be useful for press maintenance, and for most use:=
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 * the vise needs to be near the height it is no=
w.=C2=A0 That is, it needs to<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 be mounted at a height so it can be used=
while standing.=C2=A0 It is<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 unsafe to use it at a lower height.=C2=
=A0 It is unsafe to use it seated or<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 bent over.=C2=A0 None of the other surfa=
ces in the front APOffice are high<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 enough.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 * the surface the vice is mounted on has to be =
thick, and material has<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 able to hold bolts under force over time=
.=C2=A0 The 'table' has to be<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 sturdy.=C2=A0 The object in the vise has=
to be held well and steadily.=C2=A0 If<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the surface is thin or weak, it's po=
ssible for the vice to detach<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 suddenly, which is not safe.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 * there has to be a certain amount of working r=
oom, around it.=C2=A0 But<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 that can be created on the fly, dependin=
g on how the vise is used.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> The hand-turned pencil sharpener on the worktable is =
superior to the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> electric one.=C2=A0 You can get a sharper point with =
less loss of pencil with<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> it.=C2=A0 It could be relocated.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> It's easiest to use the paper cutter standing up =
at the height of the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> worktable.=C2=A0 It could be moved elsewhere.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> The worktable only takes 10 (ten) square feet of floo=
r space.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> The front APOffice has over 630 square feet of floor =
space, which APO<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> has over 80%.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> So the worktable takes up about 2% (two%) of the floo=
r space APO has.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> AX can't afford that floor space?<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> We had a lengthy in-depth discussion about this in 20=
11(?).=C2=A0 The last<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> time the APOffice was rearranged.=C2=A0 Many options =
were considered.=C2=A0 We<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> settled for leaving the vice on the worktable in the =
front APOffice.=C2=A0 I<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> could spend the time to dig that out, but time is so =
precious for me<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> since the head trauma.=C2=A0 If needed, could someone=
else dif it out?<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> I hope a way can be found to keep the vise on the wor=
ktable in the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> APOffice.=C2=A0 The top of the table can also be used=
for other things and<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> tasks.=C2=A0 The space under could be continue to be =
used other storage,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> perhaps the ritual equipment..<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>> yiLFS -len<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0</blockquote></div>
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