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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Beck)
Fri Oct 30 14:02:34 1998

Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:53:34 -0800 (PST)
From: John Beck <swampgod@rocketmail.com>
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Actually this probably is kinda unrelated but you can
change the windows shell to an Afterstep-like shell,
by using Litestep and changing the Shell=Explorer
line in the system ini. So it's nice to have at least
an alternative to the Windbloze explorer.



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---"Jose M. Sanchez" <opjose@ex-pressnet.com> wrote:
>
> 
> KDE, WindowMaker, Gnome, xfce2, blackbox, Afterstep
are all what are
> referred to as "Window Managers".
> 
> XFree86 supplies the underlying hardware support
for a GUI based system
> (read Window) manager.
> 
> Unlike Winblows where you are really stuck with
what Mikeysoft decides that
> is good for you, Linux allows you to replace the
underlying "window"
> operating structure.
> 
> Imagine, if you would that you could seperate all
of the hardware support
> OUT of Winblows into a seperate "packaged" (like X)
and swap in second
> party, program managers, desktops OS programs,
browsers, clients, etc...
> sorta like what the Justice Department wants
Mikeysoft to do...
> 
> In effect you will have given developers a GUI
based enviornment, where they
> DO NOT have to worry about the hardware, but at the
same time they are free
> to write the "rest" of the operating system...
> 
> This is what these XFree does...
> 
> By itself all X can do is bring up a graphics
screen with a pointer.
> 
> Add a WindowManager and you can use one to say make
it look JUST like
> windows...
> 
> ... see:
http://www-masuda.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~kourai/qvwm/index-en.html
> 
> For an example of someone who has taken this to an
extreme...
> 
> Or totally unlike and much better than Winblows...
> 
> See:
> 
> http://www.themes.org
> 
> Click on the Windowmaker, E, and KDE themes
sections for previews of how
> your "desktop" can look and operate.
> 
> (themes.org is unavailable today due to routing
problems...)
> 
> I personally prefer WindowMaker over KDE, due to
the nice dockable "applets"
> (small programs that can be always displaying
updated information) I have
> including...
> 
> temperature sensors, clocks, system status,
processes, PPP graphs, blinking
> lights, etc.
> 
> KDE will be a bit more familiar (and better) to the
Windows user...
> 
> While GVWM will appear to be winblows...
> 
> This is one of the nice things Linux provides,
almost unlimited
> configurability...
> 
> The tradeoff is sometimes more complexity setting
up menus, etc... but most
> of the newest Window Managers seek to simplify
customization for the novice.
> 
> KDE, WindowMaker, Gnome, etc. all now feature
Newbie friendly configuration
> tools.
> 
> -JMS
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mike kohout <mwkohout@csbsju.edu>
> To: redhat-list@redhat.com <redhat-list@redhat.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 7:57 PM
> Subject: Re: xwindows
> 
> 
> >OK, I installed linux two days ago.  I was
wondering if you could
> >explain to me (and maybe some of the other newbies
out there) what KDE
> >and xfce2 are.  From what I've read of your thread
so far, are they like
> >a replacement for XF86? or are they something else
> >
> >sorry if my question annoys you, but the question
has been nagging me
> >for a little while.
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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