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Re: Thats it...

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steve Jardine)
Tue Nov 26 12:08:08 1996

In-Reply-To: <199611261508.HAA29474@ridge.spiritone.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:03:27 -0700 (MST)
From: Steve Jardine <jardine@goodnet.com>
To: redhat-list@redhat.com
Cc: "Dave" <pom@spiritone.com>
Resent-From: redhat-list@redhat.com
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On 26-Nov-96 "Dave" wrote:

>WOW, I am so impressed that you are 18 and use unix or that you were
>15 when you started using unix. So what? My 1st computer was a TRS-80
>model I with an 8" floopy. So what?
>

Dave,

    With all this vast experience and your overwhelming number of years in 
the field, one must wonder why you seem to be having so many problems 
getting your hardware to work.

>
>Win95 buggy as hell? Are you smoken crack when you try and use it? I've
>been using Win95 for well over a year and have never had problem 1. Zippo,
>zero, nadda. I might add that I use such programs via Win95 as ACAD 13,
>Corel Draw 6.0, 3d Studio and various other 3d rendering programs. As well
>as gobs and gobs of Win95 apps and games. Never once have I had a
>problem with Win95 detecting my hardware or any problems with upgrades.
>So this buggy as hell claim is just blah blah blah.


    Another excellent point. The method in which you make this point is
both interesting and very intelligent. The personal attack goes a long way 
to describe the manner in which you most likely approached the debugging of
your hardware, and discussing issues with RedHat.

    I appreciate your exhaustive research on the WIN 95 OS. I would probably
add to the statements made - your mileage may vary. I have used Win95. I
have found it both sloppy, buggy (dies/hangs often IMHO)and slow (not to 
mention bloody expensive) My question is, why did you decide to move to 
Linux if Win95 is so wonderful? 


>> 
>> so my point is, hey, i'm 18 and i'm not complaining, so REFMOTI(read
>every
>> frigging manual on the internet, including man pages and such) before you
>> complain about how you don't know jack and expect everyone to drop
>> everything just to help you out. 
>

>Well bub, there are not concise readings on the internet with regards to
>this
>Soundcard. In fact up until this release of Redhat this card was never
>supported under any kernel that I am awear of. The problem is that this
>card
>came with the computer that I bought. It has worked very well in dos and
>win,
>so no I will not be going out and buying a new 100 - 150 dollar sound card.
>This card is a unique card b/c of the way it was designed and not knowing
>unix very well I am sorta at a loss as to what to do. 
>

    To address this, I must say - tough. I have never read anywhere that 
Linux will support all hardware. If it works with micro$haft stuff - use 
it there. If it does'nt work in Linux, your options are to write your own 
driver, ask (nicely - without personal attack) a previous driver writer to 
do so, or put up a general request on a list such as this one (without 
whining). 

>Also having laid out the money to buy the software I fully expect Redhat
>to honor the vendor-customer agreement, Redhat offers support via email
>and fax for 60 days. It would seem however Redhat has becomed so bogged
>down they are unable to respond in a timly fashion. 
>

    I wonder, can someone clarify for me what the contract states? Is the 
support for installation only? Does RedHat have an approved (and 'supported')
hardware list? I wonder if this sound card is on the 'supported' hardware list?




                                Steve


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E-Mail: Steve Jardine <jardine@goodnet.com>
Date: 11/26/96
Time: 08:03:28

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