[1701] in SIPB_Linux_Development
Re: Redhat 4.2/Linux-Athena
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Salvatore Valente)
Wed Jun 4 16:43:02 1997
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 16:42:21 -0400
To: warlord@MIT.EDU
Cc: nygren@MIT.EDU, chris@MIT.EDU, linux-dev@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: <sjmwwoakzzw.fsf@charon.MIT.EDU> (message from Derek Atkins on 04
Jun 1997 14:02:43 -0400)
From: Salvatore Valente <svalente@MIT.EDU>
Derek wrote, in response to Erik:
>> I was fairly sure we had consensus to move to an SRVD model...
> This was certainly not the impression that I had...
OH? Take a look at my message...
Umm... What?
Sure, you sent a message. That's not a consensus.
> But there really needs to be a way to easily install portions of the
> system *without* having to get AFS working (or even without being
> connected to the network).
You have to be on the network to download the RPMS in the first place.
Ummm... What?
Obviously, you don't need a network connection to download RPMs. (You
can download them from a dialup, or put them on a floppy disk...)
Erik is right. It is unacceptable if users need to be running AFS in
order to install kerberos and zephyr.
Therefore, I see no reason that "installation without a
network" should be a requirement of the Athena subsystem.
Then you haven't been listening. "Installation without a network"
_is_ a requirement. This point has been repeated over and over, and
you haven't offered any reasonable counterargument.
I see the RPMs falling into disrepair because
it's a lot of work to maintain them.
Ummm... What?
RPMs are roughly as easy to maintain as the system packs. Install on
the system packs and type rpm -bb. I created a dozen or so MkLinux
RPMs in about 5 minutes. I happily volunteer to continue helping to
maintain the Linux-Athena RPMs, as have a lot of other people. It's
no bother, really.
But anyway, none of this matters. RPMs will continue to exist, and if
I get around to it, I may even create an RPM based system which allows
people the option of using system packs. If anyone wants to create an
spm system, that's great too. The more options we make available, the
better.
Sorry for adding to this nonsense.
-Sal.
