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Re: Redhat 4.2/Linux-Athena

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Erik Nygren)
Wed Jun 4 16:12:39 1997

To: Derek Atkins <warlord@MIT.EDU>
Cc: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@MIT.EDU>, Erik Nygren <nygren@MIT.EDU>,
        Chris Murphy <chris@MIT.EDU>, linux-dev@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: Your message of "04 Jun 1997 15:14:53 EDT."
             <sjmraeikwnm.fsf@charon.MIT.EDU> 
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 16:12:23 EDT
From: Erik Nygren <nygren@MIT.EDU>


> Assuming we fix the Athena + semi-connected-network problems, can you
> explain how the SRVD/SPM installation solution doesn't work for
> laptops or home machines?

I think what I'm most objecting to are:

	- Requiring AFS in order to install things.  For one,
	  can home users using ISP's other than tether even
	  legally use AFS?  And I'm not convinced that running
	  AFS and installing things using it over a 14.4 modem
	  is reasonable.

	- Having to have infrastructure installed on the
	  machine (the SPM system) in order to install bits of
	  Linux-Athena seems like a problem.  Personally, I'd almost
	  like tarball packages rather than RPM's (although RPM's
	  are probably easier to manage and better for most users).	  
	  There are quite a users, I'm sure, who want zephyr and
	  kerberos, but don't want any other bits of Athena
	  infecting their machines.

	- Things are easy enough to install as they are.
	  The easier they get to install in the general
	  case, the harder they are to deal with when you
	  have a tough case that isn't dealt with by the general
	  casse.  Microsoft Windows95 does a great job
	  of dealing with the general case, but have you
	  ever tried to get it to deal in the cases where
	  the general dcase fails?  There should still be a
	  not-too-hard way of doing things by hand.

   Erik

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