[465] in Kakapo Windows Team
[Kakapo] Student Group Request
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Chad Dupuis)
Wed Aug 18 13:28:21 2004
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To: kakapo@mit.edu
From: Chad Dupuis <dupuis@mit.edu>
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 12:50:18 -0400
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I still have not received one comment regarding the student group
request that came in...
You have 3 options for your answer:
(1) yes - chad - give them everything they want regardless of the
constraints mentioned
(2) yes - give them an empty container and let them install software
manually with no support
(3) no
to recap...
We don't need to meet, but - yes - we do need to discuss the student
group request. Until we have a more defined structure regarding
support, software fees, etc. I am leaning towards declining opening
this up to student groups. Additionally, there are still ongoing,
unresolved negotiations with DITR regarding athena DLC's which this
would most likely fall under if we reach a decision in this matter.
For now, I would be ok with them having a container with machines
joined to the domain and have them install software on their own, but I
really don't have the cycles to begin supporting machines in student
groups. Once the RCC is trained in such matters, I would feel much
better helping them (and others) get started so long as they could
provide some backup support. Just my 2 cents....
-Chad.
and the original request:
On Jul 25, 2004, at 2:45 PM, Jose H Soltren wrote:
> Chad,
>
> I'm available ever weekday. We could meet tomorrow afternoon.
>
> Concerning your questions:
> 1) The goal is to be able to use Windows machines the way we use Athena
> machines - remote login and authentication using Kerberos at the very
> least. MatLab and SolidWorks would be a real plus if we did not have to
> pay for them. Microsoft Office may or may not be necessary. Ideally
> we'd
> like to keep costs at a minimum. We're exploring this as a complement
> to
> the private Athena workstations we already have, which do not cost us
> any
> money to run (aside from electricity and hardware costs).
>
> 2) I'd like the following people to have administrative access:
> Jose Soltren jsoltren@mit.edu Student
> Mark Tobenkin mmt@mit.edu Student
>
> I (Jose) have experience with Windows from a system administrator's
> perspective. I have some limited experience managing a Windows domain.
> I
> believe this is also Mark's situation.
>
> 3) The proposed environment would consist of an undetermined number of
> machines (right now, just one, but this may increase) throughout our
> house
> at TEP. We have two networked PostScript laser printers, an HP LaserJet
> 4050N and a Tektronix Phaser 740. There may be future interest in using
> video editing software, but that's not an issue at this point in time.
>
> I'd like to leave the option open to brothers of the house to configure
> their own machines using WinAthena. Since Windows stores a user's files
> locally, it may be a viable option for individuals to set up their own
> computers using the domain.
>
> We're an overwhelmingly Linux house with a couple of Mac OS X machines
> (and an Athena station running Solaris).
>
> 4) Right now, we're just looking at a couple of laptops that would only
> use WinAthena within MITNet (18.*.*.*). Since we're just looking at a
> few
> machines right now, maybe 2 desktops and 1 laptop, the ratio is about
> 2:1.
>
> Thank you for your prompt response to my request! I'll happily discuss
> any
> further issues as they arise. Once again, cost is a prohibitive factor,
> something we would need to vote upon as a house.
>
> --
> Jose "soultrain" Soltren
> 253 Commonwealth Avenue (tep)
> Boston, MA 02116
> jsoltren@mit.edu
>
> On Sun, 25 Jul 2004, Chad Dupuis wrote:
>
>> Hello Jose,
>>
>> I'd be happy to meet with you to discuss your proposed use of
>> WinAthena. Please send me some meeting times which work for you over
>> the next 2 weeks and I will get something setup. In the meantime, if
>> you could also answer the following questions, that would be helpful
>> as
>> well.
>>
>> 1) As specifically as possible (i.e. including, plug-ins, etc.)
>> please
>> provide us with a complete list of software that you would want for
>> the
>> machines.
>>
>> 2) Please provide us with a list of people and their status (i.e
>> faculty, staff, student) who would have administrative access to the
>> machines. Do any of these people have experience managing a windows
>> domain, active directory experience and/or windows scripting
>> experience?
>>
>> 3) Please describe the proposed environment as far as peripherals are
>> concerned (i.e. printing, removable harddrives, digital cameras,
>> etc.).
>> This allows us to consider driver issues.
>>
>> 4) Please describe the use of laptops in the container - would they
>> be
>> taken oncampus? offcampus? and what would be the ratio of desktops to
>> laptops.
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> -Chad.
>> MIT Academic Computing
>> Bldg. 37 Administrator
>>
>> jsoltren@MIT.EDU wrote:
>>
>>> This is a request for assistance with getting started in WIN.MIT.EDU
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>> Request came from: jsoltren@mit.edu
>>> Jose H Soltren
>>>
>>> MIT Username (optional): jsoltren
>>>
>>>
>>> Project type: Mix of Personal Laptops and Desktops
>>> Other:
>>>
>>> Expected focus/Practice: Mixed
>>>
>>>
>>> Other contacts to include in correspondence:
>>> +++++
>>>
>>> +++++
>>>
>>> Project description:
>>> +++++
>>> Create a container named "tep" for use at tep, Tau Epsilon Phi, a
>>> fraternity house. Configure a number of Windows workstations with
>>> WinAthena for general house use.
>>> +++++
>>>
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