[17489] in Athena Bugs
Re: She sells sea shells by the sea shore
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Barker)
Mon Jan 24 22:40:58 2000
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:52:03 -0500
To: John Hawkinson <jhawk@mit.edu>
From: Mike Barker <mbarker@MIT.EDU>
Cc: "t. belton" <tbelton@mit.edu>, bug-infoagents@mit.edu
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I think what you're requesting is a release team issue, not an infoagents
issue.
And I think they've discussed various ways of trying to set the machine
default for audio, and ended up without a good solution. I seem to
recollect at one point there was discussion of clipping the speaker wires,
which everyone agreed wasn't a good solution (it's an installation headache).
I'd suggest involving the release folks.
Mike
At 12:58 PM 1/24/00 -0500, John Hawkinson wrote:
> >Actually, it's the noises of a train station.
>
>Well, that's what it is supposed to be ;-)
>
> >I don't really know what you want me to do. The Flash plugin is working
> >exactly the way it's supposed to (to my surprise). Are you asking that we
> >turn sound off in Flash by default? I think that will probably get more
> >complaints than if people have the sounds coming out of their speaker.
>
>Well, I think the desired end-state is that sounds not come out of
>a machine's speaker by default, especially in public clusters.
>
> >Controlling where sound emanates on a given machine is, as far as I know,
> >a hardware/system issue and there isn't a Flash setting that affects it.
>
>Well, if it's a plugin, that is harder. You could easily
>have the netscape startup wrapper change the sound output
>device to the headphones rather than the speaker.
>
>The one problem with that is that for people who *do* want the
>sound out of the speakers, things are problematic. Obvious
>solutions to my mind are:
>
> a) Have the release set the default sound output device to
> the headphone jack at login time, so if the user changes
> that, all apps will follow. [problem: when a device resets the
> audio that state may change so some sort of daemon could be
> required...]
>
> b) Just switch the sound on PUBLIC=true machines when netscape
> starts. This loses for people who want their private ws' to behave
> just like the public ones (e.g., this machine in the sipb offce).
>
><shrug>
>
>--jhawk
>
>
>
> >-Todd
> >
> >On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, John Hawkinson wrote:
> >
> >> I started netscape 4 from dash and went to www.acela.com
> >> and was shocked as the sound of waves and the sea
> >> came out of the speaker on this Ultra 5.
> >>
> >> I believe that represents a broken configuration default and it should be
> >> fixed. Presumably something should try to ensure that the default
> >> sound output is not the speakers. Perhaps fixing this properly
> >> requires an interaction with the release. But it needs to be fixed.
> >
