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Re: She sells sea shells by the sea shore

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Hawkinson)
Mon Jan 24 12:58:29 2000

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To: "t. belton" <tbelton@MIT.EDU>
cc: bug-infoagents@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:47:15 EST."
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:58:23 -0500
From: John Hawkinson <jhawk@MIT.EDU>

>Actually, it's the noises of a train station.

Well, that's what it is supposed to be ;-)

>I don't really know what you want me to do. The Flash plugin is working
>exactly the way it's supposed to (to my surprise). Are you asking that we
>turn sound off in Flash by default? I think that will probably get more
>complaints than if people have the sounds coming out of their speaker.

Well, I think the desired end-state is that sounds not come out of
a machine's speaker by default, especially in public clusters.

>Controlling where sound emanates on a given machine is, as far as I know,
>a hardware/system issue and there isn't a Flash setting that affects it. 

Well, if it's a plugin, that is harder. You could easily
have the netscape startup wrapper change the sound output
device to the headphones rather than the speaker.

The one problem with that is that for people who *do* want the
sound out of the speakers, things are problematic. Obvious
solutions to my mind are:

  a) Have the release set the default sound output device to
  the headphone jack at login time, so if the user changes
  that, all apps will follow. [problem: when a device resets the
  audio that state may change so some sort of daemon could be
  required...]

  b) Just switch the sound on PUBLIC=true machines when netscape
  starts. This loses for people who want their private ws' to behave
  just like the public ones (e.g., this machine in the sipb offce).

<shrug>

--jhawk



>-Todd
>
>On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, John Hawkinson wrote:
>
>> I started netscape 4 from dash and went to www.acela.com
>> and was shocked as the sound of waves and the sea
>> came out of the speaker on this Ultra 5.
>> 
>> I believe that represents a broken configuration default and it should be
>> fixed. Presumably something should try to ensure that the default
>> sound output is not the speakers. Perhaps fixing this properly
>> requires an interaction with the release. But it needs to be fixed.
>

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