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Re: Jonathon Weiss: forwading broken on athena workstations

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson)
Mon Oct 18 10:34:31 1999

Message-Id: <199910181434.KAA29856@small-gods.mit.edu>
To: Tom Coppeto <tom@MIT.EDU>
cc: Jonathon Weiss <jweiss@MIT.EDU>, postmaster@MIT.EDU, network@MIT.EDU,
        bugs@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:10:25 EDT."
             <199910181405.KAA22621@melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU> 
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:34:25 -0400
From: Greg Hudson <ghudson@MIT.EDU>

Hi, Tom.  I'm afraid you haven't captured the core of the complaints.
Since the athena.mit.edu MX switch, we have seen the following three
problems:

	* When an Athena workstation sends a bounce message, the
	  bounce gets lost because of the null envelope from.  We will
	  be working around this problem in Tuesday's patch release by
	  making sendmail send bounces with a mailer-daemon envelope
	  from.

	* If the user of a private Athena workstation forwards their
	  mail (e.g. if I made "ghudson@small-gods.mit.edu" forward to
	  "ghudson@hotmail.com"), when it tries to forward mail from
	  off-site, the envelope from will be a non-mit.edu address
	  and outgoing will reject the mail.

	* If someone sends mail from a "local account" (like "root")
	  from an Athena workstation, the envelope from is set to
	  username@machinename instead of username@mit.edu.  If the
	  Athena machine is not a mit.edu machine, such mail will be
	  rejected by outgoing.

While the first problem is under control for now, the second and third
problems are more fundamental.  And we're not talking about "mailers
running non-mit.edu domains."  We hope you will have some advice for
dealing with this change in conditions.

Thanks for your time.

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