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Minutes of DCE Deployment Working Group

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Richard Tennent (206) 865-3613)
Tue Nov 8 16:49:08 1994

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Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 10:07:39 PST
From: Richard Tennent (206) 865-3613 <tennent@espresso.rt.cs.boeing.com>
To: sig-dce-deployment@osf.org, sig-dce@osf.org


The DCE Deployment Working Group met Tuesday, November 1, 1994.
The agenda provided presentations by Household Finance, Hughes 
Information Systems and Gradient.  The remainder of the meeting was 
taken up by a discussion of the need to begin to capture the user 
requirements for distributed computing.

The Household Fiance presentation was given by Lou Marzinelli, 
Consultant - Business Systems, Research & Technology.  The presentation 
covered many different aspects of their study of DCE.  The 
following are some of the points presented:

    o DCE and Open Systems - DCE is middleware; goal is transparent 
      access to anything, anywhere; "Open Systems" can include the 
      mainframe

    o R&D DCE objectives - learn to install; provide internal 
      documentation

    o R&D Cell Configuration - HP-UX, AIX, SunOS, OS/2, Windows on a 
      single LAN segment

    o Administration Tools - very immature; lack consistency

    o DCE Application Tools - looking at Gradient's Visual DCE, 
      OEC's Encompass & HP's OODCE

    o DCE MVS Concern - Does MVS DCE convert RPC to LU 6.2
      [The conversion is to LU 6.1 to support IMS 3.x. - RCT]

    o DCE will continue to push on; Year of 1995 will determine the 
      future of DCE

Laks Prabhala gave an overview of the project that Hughes Information 
Systems is managing for NASA Goddard.  Laks had good pictures that
described their environment but I'm unable to include in this report.

    o DCE Pilot - 4 cells, 20 systems in largest cell; HP, Sun, 
      Convex, Cray, IBM and Silicon Graphics systems; no replication 
      of services; monitoring DCE using HP's OpenView; using 
      extensible SNMP traps

    o POSIX compliance standards based solutions

    o Want DCE multiple security services [I may have not captured 
      this completely enough - RCT]

    o Receiving 7 to 8 terabytes/day from satellites and probes

    o Using OODCE, HP OpenView - Network Node Manager, Clearcase 
      (configuration management) & OMT

    o REQUIREMENTS
        - Async guaranteed non-blocking RPC/messaging
        - Event Services: API to initiate an event; filtering to 
          history logging; dispatching to multiple locations; 
          corrective action/triggers
        - Multi-casting

    o Prototypes being worked on - Trader (attributes about what 
      server provides, e.g., physical location of printer, rated 
      print speed); distributed applications (DCE pipes vs ftp); 
      security ACL manager; GUI tool for rgy_edit; rpc broadcast 
      maybe

The Gradient presentation was given by Tom Cocks.  The highlights 
of Tom's presentation are:

    o PC-DCE/32 is a native port of OSF's DCE source code to Win32; 
      based on release 1.0.3; supports both client and server 
      functionality for Windows NT; DCE applications will have 
      binary compatibility between NT and Windows 95

    o DCE core runtime - threads, client side DCE daemons, transports 
      (TCP/IP and SPX/IPX), naming (CDS clerk as DLL), security with 
      integrated login

    o Security Server for NT - does not supplant NT security services

    o Schedule - pre-beta now, beta 4Q94, General Availability 2Q95

REQUIREMENTS    

A discussion was held about requirements that were mentioned during 
presentations on the previous days of the SIG.  Suggested 
requirements that needed to be documented were: Async messaging, 
support for SNMP v2, Interface Definitions Language (IDL) for the 
DCEized database management systems, support for Microsoft COM 
extensions for IDL, event services, licensing services and 
distributed print services.

Laks Prabhala (e-mail: laks@eos.hitc.com) agreed to be the focal 
point for creating the Async Messaging requirement.  Any user having 
requirements should use e-mail to send ideas to Laks.

For Event Services and Distributed Print Services, Dick Tennent 
agreed to distribute to the SIG the X/Open Requirements documents on 
these subjects.


Thanks, Dick Tennent

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