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Questions: ANS Plan for Commercial Services

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter Roll)
Thu Sep 12 09:20:05 1991

Date: Thu, 12 Sep 91 08:18:55 CDT
To: com-priv@psi.com
From: proll@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Peter Roll)
Cc: staman@cic.net, hankins@cic.net, kjohnson@casbah.acns.nwu.edu

The ANS Plan for Commercial Services is an interesting document.  
On first reading, I have some questions that I hope Ittai 
Herschman or Al Weis may be able to answer. I would also be 
interested in objhective comments and responses from Marty 
Shoffstall and other associated with the CIX/PSI group.  
PETER ROLL
VP FOR INFORMATION SERRVICES
NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY
CHAIRMAN, CICNET, INC.

Policy issues 
=============

Why do RE and CO communities have to be considered as and treated 
differently?  Why not just one user community?  Is differential 
pricing between CO and RE legal or sustainable?  Is it acceptable 
or desirable public policy?  Will changes to statutes be required?  
Has a legal opinion been rendered on this matter?    

Why is there any limitation on acceptable use of the ANS or ANS 
CO+RE backbone?  What is ANS's Acceptable Use Policy?  
What is the ANS CO+RE Acceptable Use Policy?
Why is a commercial (ANS CO+RE) facility not willing to carry any and 
all traffic, leaving the users/originators responsible for it?  
Are there legal ramifications here that are not clear?  

Why is it of interest to gather application type identification 
information (page  A-4)?  This seems to be unwarranted and unnecessary.  

There seems to be no representations of the commercial customers 
that pay for the infrastructure pool on the allocation committee 
(pg 6).  Will this form of taxation without representation work, 
and is it good policy?  


Service and Technical Implications 
==================================

Is discrimination in favor of large packet sizes (pg. A-6) going to 
hike the imputed costs of casual e-mail traffic??  What are the 
implications of this for various kinds of NREN uses?  Will it 
discourage the kind of mass low-performance communication among 
scholars and students that we are trying to stimulate?  If in
fact the imputed costs of casual e-mail traffic do NOT flow 
back in any way to RE user organizations, with the large 
packet size discrimination nevertheless inhibit e-mail and 
other small-packet communications by CO organizations with which 
we would like to encourage greater interaction?

What burdens will the COMBit technique place on midlevels to 
charge back to their CO+RE users appropriate amounts to cover 
the CO overpayments they make (pg. A-11)?  Will the technology 
to do this be available and affordable for midlevels?  Will the 
technique tend to force midlevels out of the CO business to avoid 
this problem?  Will it induce them to segregate CO and RE users 
on separately-gatewayed subnets?  What are these implications for 
midlevels?  Have these been thoroughly understood and debated by 
the FARNet membership?  


Definitions
===========

The definitions in Attachment C do not make it clear who is 
included in the RE and CO categories.  Schools, colleges, and 
universities clearly qualify as RE.  Westinghouse Research Labs 
is a research organization, for instance.  Does this mean that
Westingouse Electric Corp. is RE?  That Westinghouse Research 
must be separately incorporated to qualify as an RE org?  Or 
something else?  Are Commercial Service Providers and Commercial 
organizations both CO orgs?  If so, why bother to differentiate 
between them?  

Early in the document the term "network service provider" is used 
to include commercial orgs such as ANS, ANS CO+RE, PSI, CIX, etc.; 
and midlevels which may accomodate RE and CO traffic.  What kind 
of "institution"  (pg. C-1) is each of these network service 
providers, or are they a separate class of org becuase they do 
not, themselves, originate traffic?


Other questions
===============

On Pg. 9, is it ANS or ANS CO+RE that funds "....the difference 
between the CO and the RE price of its attachement fee to the 
infrastructure fund....?"  

It is my understanding that NSF grants do not always cover the 
total costs of LXC loops.  Am I wrong about this?  


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