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Re: Survey on ResNet Services

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rizzo, Jim)
Wed Oct 31 15:40:59 2012

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Don't forget the gamers (since we're talking about dorms and not offices). =
They also rely on low latency, and will generally be the first to complain =
when there's an issue.

Jim
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From: <Doughty>, Marc <marc_doughty@brown.edu<mailto:marc_doughty@brown.edu=
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Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 12:19 PM
To: Resnet Forum <RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu<mailto:RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu>=
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Subject: Re: [RESNET-L] Survey on ResNet Services

Greetings,
     I just wanted to weigh-in on this idea. I know that a lot of folks see=
m to be of the impression that 'wireless is all we need', but I regularly h=
ave to connect physically to get reasonable latency and throughput. From a =
bandwidth perspective, switching to wireless-only is basically the same as =
replacing switches with half-duplex hubs.
     Sure, wireless is convenient, and it's great for casual email/browsing=
/remote access users (including, unfortunately, the managers who tend to ma=
ke these decisions). Those of us who need to move chunks of data around or =
who rely on low-latency responsiveness find themselves marginalized in wire=
less-only settings. For instance: RDP, SSH, and X11 over even moderately bu=
sy wireless connections are often barely usable, and waiting an hour for a =
600MB Debian ISO seems very... 1997.

- Marc Doughty
"If you aren't sure who is the give-way vessel, you are the give-way vessel=
."


On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, resnet <resnet@uark.edu<mailto:resnet@uar=
k.edu>> wrote:
Hello everyone,

We are evaluating a possible change to our network services on campus.  Spe=
cifically, we are looking to change the way we deliver network to our stude=
nts from mainly a wired network to wireless in our residence halls.  I woul=
d appreciate it if you could take about 3 minutes to do a survey on how you=
r institution is providing network services to your students.  I want to ha=
ve some statistics to show management so that they are able to make an info=
rmed decision.

Thank you for your time.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GYBHRMM

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System Administrator
University of Arkansas
Housing Department
mdrose@uark.edu<mailto:mdrose@uark.edu>
(479)575-3951<tel:%28479%29575-3951>
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<div>Don't forget the gamers (since we're talking about dorms and not offic=
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<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1=
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lto:RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu">RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [RESNET-L] Survey on R=
esNet Services<br>
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<div>Greetings,
<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I just wanted to weigh-in on this idea. I know tha=
t a lot of folks seem to be of the impression that 'wireless is all we need=
', but I regularly have to connect physically to get reasonable latency and=
 throughput.&nbsp;From a bandwidth perspective, switching
 to wireless-only is basically the same as replacing switches with half-dup=
lex hubs.</div>
<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Sure, wireless is convenient, and it's great for c=
asual email/browsing/remote access users (including, unfortunately, the man=
agers who tend to make these decisions). Those of us who need to move chunk=
s of data around or who rely on low-latency responsiveness
 find themselves marginalized in wireless-only settings. For instance: RDP,=
 SSH, and X11 over even moderately busy wireless connections are often bare=
ly usable, and waiting an hour for a 600MB Debian ISO seems very... 1997.</=
div>
<div><br>
- Marc Doughty<br>
&quot;If you aren't sure who is the give-way vessel, you are the give-way v=
essel.&quot;<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, resnet <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:resnet@uark.edu" target=3D"_blank">resnet@uark.edu</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello everyone,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We are evaluating a possible change to our network s=
ervices on campus.&nbsp; Specifically, we are looking to change the way we =
deliver network to our students from mainly a wired network to wireless in =
our residence halls.&nbsp; I would appreciate
 it if you could take about 3 minutes to do a survey on how your institutio=
n is providing network services to your students.&nbsp; I want to have some=
 statistics to show management so that they are able to make an informed de=
cision.&nbsp;
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thank you for your time.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GYBHRMM" t=
arget=3D"_blank">https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GYBHRMM</a><u></u><u></u></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">______________________________<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Matthew Rose <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">System Administrator<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">University of Arkansas <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Housing Department<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"mailto:mdrose@uark.edu" target=3D"_blank"=
>mdrose@uark.edu</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"tel:%28479%29575-3951" value=3D"&#43;1479=
5753951" target=3D"_blank">(479)575-3951</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">StrengthsQuest<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Analytical - Deliberative - Focus - Responsibility -=
 Consistency<u></u><u></u></p>
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 printing this e-mail think if it is nec</span><span lang=3D"EN-CA" style=
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.&nbsp;&nbsp; Think Green!</span><span style=3D"font-size: 7pt; color: navy=
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