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Re: Survey on ResNet Services

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Doughty, Marc)
Wed Oct 31 12:21:21 2012

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Greetings,
     I just wanted to weigh-in on this idea. I know that a lot of folks
seem to be of the impression that 'wireless is all we need', but I
regularly have to connect physically to get reasonable latency and
throughput. From a bandwidth perspective, switching to wireless-only is
basically the same as replacing switches with half-duplex hubs.
     Sure, wireless is convenient, and it's great for casual
email/browsing/remote access users (including, unfortunately, the managers
who tend to make these decisions). Those of us who need to move chunks of
data around or who rely on low-latency responsiveness find themselves
marginalized in wireless-only settings. For instance: RDP, SSH, and X11
over even moderately busy wireless connections are often barely usable, and
waiting an hour for a 600MB Debian ISO seems very... 1997.

- Marc Doughty
"If you aren't sure who is the give-way vessel, you are the give-way
vessel."


On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, resnet <resnet@uark.edu> wrote:

>  Hello everyone,****
>
> ** **
>
> We are evaluating a possible change to our network services on campus.
> Specifically, we are looking to change the way we deliver network to our
> students from mainly a wired network to wireless in our residence halls.  I
> would appreciate it if you could take about 3 minutes to do a survey on how
> your institution is providing network services to your students.  I want to
> have some statistics to show management so that they are able to make an
> informed decision.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> Thank you for your time.        ****
>
> ** **
>
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GYBHRMM ****
>
> ** **
>
> ______________________________****
>
> Matthew Rose ****
>
> System Administrator****
>
> University of Arkansas ****
>
> Housing Department****
>
> mdrose@uark.edu****
>
> (479)575-3951****
>
> StrengthsQuest****
>
> Analytical - Deliberative - Focus - Responsibility - Consistency****
>
> P Before printing this e-mail think if it is necessary.   Think Green!****
>
> ** **
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Greetings,<div>=A0 =A0 =A0I just wanted to weigh-in on this idea. I know th=
at a lot of folks seem to be of the impression that &#39;wireless is all we=
 need&#39;, but I regularly have to connect physically to get reasonable la=
tency and throughput.=A0From a bandwidth perspective, switching to wireless=
-only is basically the same as replacing switches with half-duplex hubs.</d=
iv>
<div>=A0 =A0 =A0Sure, wireless is convenient, and it&#39;s great for casual=
 email/browsing/remote access users (including, unfortunately, the managers=
 who tend to make these decisions). Those of us who need to move chunks of =
data around or who rely on low-latency responsiveness find themselves margi=
nalized in wireless-only settings. For instance: RDP, SSH, and X11 over eve=
n moderately busy wireless connections are often barely usable, and waiting=
 an hour for a 600MB Debian ISO seems very... 1997.</div>
<div><br>- Marc Doughty<br>&quot;If you aren&#39;t sure who is the give-way=
 vessel, you are the give-way vessel.&quot;<br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, resnet=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:resnet@uark.edu" target=3D"_blank"=
>resnet@uark.edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">






<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello everyone,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We are evaluating a possible change to our network s=
ervices on campus.=A0 Specifically, we are looking to change the way we del=
iver network to our students from mainly a wired network to wireless in our=
 residence halls.=A0 I would appreciate
 it if you could take about 3 minutes to do a survey on how your institutio=
n is providing network services to your students.=A0 I want to have some st=
atistics to show management so that they are able to make an informed decis=
ion.=A0
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thank you for your time.=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0<u></u=
><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GYBHRMM" t=
arget=3D"_blank">https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GYBHRMM</a>
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">______________________________<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Matthew Rose <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">System Administrator<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">University of Arkansas <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Housing Department<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"mailto:mdrose@uark.edu" target=3D"_blank"=
>mdrose@uark.edu</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"tel:%28479%29575-3951" value=3D"+14795753=
951" target=3D"_blank">(479)575-3951</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">StrengthsQuest<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Analytical - Deliberative - Focus - Responsibility -=
 Consistency<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-right:135.3pt">
<span style=3D"font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green">P</span><=
span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;;color:green">Before printing this e-mail think if it is ne=
c</span><span lang=3D"EN-CA" style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tah=
oma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:green">essary.=A0=A0 Think Green!</s=
pan><span style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;colo=
r:navy"><u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p>
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