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Re: google apps for edu with non-obvious account names
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian Gibson)
Mon Jan 16 10:02:54 2012
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Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:02:43 -0500
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Hi Lelio,
It depends on what email client you are using, when I look at an invite
in Thunderbird's Lightening plugin or an external Webmail interface I
have it appears in the email as just "w00005414@wheatoncollege.edu" but
the headers do mention the first last name.
I was wondering if there is a way (when routing email in and out through
Google, not using our own local servers) to mangle the messages to do a
find and replace of the username.... kinda like you can do with other
email server programs. It would require that we have to keep an updated
mapping of usernames to friendly email address (ex:
w00005414@wheatoncollege.edu -> gibson_brian@wheatoncollege.edu) but it
would fix the issue.
The other way I could think to do it is to have people use a calendaring
client (not the web interface) to send out invitations but I am not sure
how the different clients handle it.
:-(
On 1/16/2012 9:49 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
> Do they not include the first/last name of the configured user? Even
> for userIDs that are not opaque, i.e. 8 characters like jsmith01, you
> won't always be able to decipher the user. Any calendar program I've
> used has included at least the first/last name of the user so you
> don't have to worry about deciphering the userID.
>
> Not really an answer, but something to consider.
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Brian Gibson" <gibson_brian@wheatoncollege.edu>
> *To: *RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> *Sent: *Monday, January 16, 2012 9:29:38 AM
> *Subject: *google apps for edu with non-obvious account names
>
> Hi all,
>
> We use opaque user names here (ex: w00005414) and we give everyone an
> email alias of lastname_firstname. It is not an issue with our current
> email and calendaring systems but we are being asked to research Google
> Apps and the not-so-obvious username is creating issues.... especially
> with calendar invites (we figured out the email side). People do not
> know what to do when they receive a calendar invite from
>
> "w00005414@wheatoncollege.edu"
>
> We talked to Google about this and they said there is no way to change
> the calendar owner setting within your calendar.
>
> How are people dealing with this?
>
> --
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Brian Gibson
> Systems Administrator
> Wheaton College
>
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Hi Lelio,<br>
<br>
It depends on what email client you are using, when I look at an
invite in Thunderbird's Lightening plugin or an external Webmail
interface I have it appears in the email as just
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:w00005414@wheatoncollege.edu">"w00005414@wheatoncollege.edu"</a> but the headers do mention the first
last name.<br>
I was wondering if there is a way (when routing email in and out
through Google, not using our own local servers) to mangle the
messages to do a find and replace of the username.... kinda like you
can do with other email server programs. It would require that we
have to keep an updated mapping of usernames to friendly email
address (ex: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:w00005414@wheatoncollege.edu">w00005414@wheatoncollege.edu</a> ->
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gibson_brian@wheatoncollege.edu">gibson_brian@wheatoncollege.edu</a>) but it would fix the issue.<br>
<br>
The other way I could think to do it is to have people use a
calendaring client (not the web interface) to send out invitations
but I am not sure how the different clients handle it.<br>
<br>
<br>
:-(<br>
<br>
On 1/16/2012 9:49 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
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type="cite">
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<div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000">Do
they not include the first/last name of the configured user?
Even for userIDs that are not opaque, i.e. 8 characters like
jsmith01, you won't always be able to decipher the user. Any
calendar program I've used has included at least the first/last
name of the user so you don't have to worry about deciphering
the userID.<br>
<br>
Not really an answer, but something to consider.<br>
<span><br>
<span name="x"></span>---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario
N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (ANNU)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr.
Popeil)<br>
<span name="x"></span><br>
</span><br>
<hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Brian Gibson"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gibson_brian@wheatoncollege.edu"><gibson_brian@wheatoncollege.edu></a><br>
<b>To: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, January 16, 2012 9:29:38 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>google apps for edu with non-obvious account
names<br>
<br>
Hi all,<br>
<br>
We use opaque user names here (ex: w00005414) and we give
everyone an <br>
email alias of lastname_firstname. It is not an issue with our
current <br>
email and calendaring systems but we are being asked to research
Google <br>
Apps and the not-so-obvious username is creating issues....
especially <br>
with calendar invites (we figured out the email side). People do
not <br>
know what to do when they receive a calendar invite from<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:w00005414@wheatoncollege.edu">"w00005414@wheatoncollege.edu"</a><br>
<br>
We talked to Google about this and they said there is no way to
change <br>
the calendar owner setting within your calendar.<br>
<br>
How are people dealing with this?<br>
<br>
-- <br>
<br>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<br>
Brian Gibson<br>
Systems Administrator<br>
Wheaton College<br>
<br>
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