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Re: IPv6 Address Blocks
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Frank Bulk)
Thu Aug 11 11:01:00 2011
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We (ISP) provided our local college a /48.
Frank
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Kitterman,
Scott
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:03 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: IPv6 Address Blocks
Hello Tony,
The University of new Hampshire acquired a /48 a couple years ago as that
is what ARIN was offering. Since then ARIN policy has changed and they are
more inclined to issue /32s to higher Ed if you can make a case as a LIR
(local Internet Registry). We are currently in the process of transitioning
to a /32. Some general items that may qualify your college is if your
institution has customers outside the college, like k-12 schools, libraries,
non-profits, remote sites (research sites) or possibly even separate
departments like CS, Electrical Eng., Physics or others.
In general we plan to assign /48s to different groups at UNH such as CS, RCC
(Research Computing), UNH-IOL (interoperability Lab), Cooperative Extension,
distance learning, WIFI networks, and others.
I did a little research and other universities of the size and character of
UNH all have /32s. It may seem like overkill and probably is but it seems to
be the standard for institutions like UNH. The more research I did the
more convinced I became that a /48 would at some point limit or
capabilities. As a final check, I asked industry leader in IPv6 testing and
certification, UNH IOL (www.iol.unh.edu) , what they thought and they
confirmed that a /32 is the norm for our type of scenario.
We have around 12k undergrads and act as an ISP for various groups around
the state. The /32 should give us the opportunity provide IPv6 services
limited only by imagination.
I hope this is some help. Let me know if you have further questions.
Thank You,
Scott Kitterman
UNH IT
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony
Skalski
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 11:32 AM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: IPv6 Address Blocks
You can easily get a /48 - that's what we got. My understanding is that is
what most folks will get. If you can make a good case you might be able to
get something slightly larger (like a /46).
A /48 should be plenty big...
ajs
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Fred Mowchan <mowchafl@acu.edu> wrote:
I'm about ready to make a request to ARIN for a block of IPv6
addresses and I'm not sure what size block I should request.
I know that a /32 is about the size recommended for an ISP (which I think a
University is) but I sure would like to see what other universities are
planning for.
I've got an IPv4 "B" block now and with about 5000 students it gives
me lots of good options without having to compromise any addressing plans.
The /32 would get me 79 septillion IP addresses...seems like enough ;-)...
but what's the going reservation size you have or are contemplating?
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1510 St. Olaf Avenue
Northfield, MN 55057-1097
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D'>We (ISP) provided our local college a /48.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'>Frank<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Kitterman, Scott<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:03 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: IPv6 =
Address Blocks<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hello Tony,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>The University of new Hampshire acquired a /48 a couple years =
ago as that is what ARIN was offering. Since then ARIN policy has =
changed and they are more inclined to issue /32s to higher Ed if you can =
make a case as a LIR (local Internet Registry). We are currently =
in the process of transitioning to a /32. Some general items that =
may qualify your college is if your institution has customers outside =
the college, like k-12 schools, libraries, non-profits, remote sites =
(research sites) or possibly even separate departments like CS, =
Electrical Eng., Physics or others. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>In general we plan to assign /48s to different groups at UNH such as =
CS, RCC (Research Computing), UNH-IOL (interoperability Lab), =
Cooperative Extension, distance learning, WIFI networks, and =
others.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I did a little research and other universities of the size and =
character of UNH all have /32s. It may seem like overkill and probably =
is but it seems to be the standard for institutions like UNH. =
The more research I did the more convinced I became that a =
/48 would at some point limit or capabilities. As a final check, I =
asked industry leader in IPv6 testing and certification, UNH IOL (<a =
href=3D"http://www.iol.unh.edu">www.iol.unh.edu</a>) , what they thought =
and they confirmed that a /32 is the norm for our type of =
scenario.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>We have around 12k undergrads and act as an ISP for various groups =
around the state. The /32 should give us the opportunity provide =
IPv6 services limited only by imagination.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I hope this is some help. Let me know if you have further =
questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Thank You,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Scott Kitterman<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>UNH IT<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Resnet Forum <a =
href=3D"mailto:[mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]">[mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSE=
RV.ND.EDU]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Skalski<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Thursday, June 09, 2011 11:32 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a><br>=
<b>Subject:</b> Re: IPv6 Address Blocks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>You can =
easily get a /48 - that's what we got. My understanding is that is what =
most folks will get. If you can make a good case you might be able to =
get something slightly larger (like a /46).<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>A =
/48 should be plenty big...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>ajs<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Fred Mowchan <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mowchafl@acu.edu">mowchafl@acu.edu</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> I'm =
about ready to make a request to ARIN for a block of IPv6 addresses and =
I'm not sure what size block I should request.<br>I know that a /32 is =
about the size recommended for an ISP (which I think a University is) =
but I sure would like to see what other universities are planning =
for.<br> I've got an IPv4 "B" block =
now and with about 5000 students it gives me lots of good options =
without having to compromise any addressing plans.<br>The /32 would get =
me 79 septillion IP addresses...seems like enough ;-)... but what's the =
going reservation size you have or are =
contemplating?<br><br><br>_______________________________________________=
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clear=3Dall><br>-- <br>Tony Skalski<br>Systems Administrator<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:ajs@stolaf.edu">ajs@stolaf.edu</a><br>507-786-3227<br>St. =
Olaf College<br>Information and Instructional Technologies<br>1510 St. =
Olaf Avenue<br>Northfield, MN =
55057-1097<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
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