[26671] in resnet
Re: IPv6 Address Blocks
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kitterman, Scott)
Wed Aug 10 15:06:48 2011
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_37ED277C6FC42B43AE50E9F2F2B684370BD3DBakersadunhedu_"
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-MailScanner-From: stk@unh.edu
Message-ID: <37ED277C6FC42B43AE50E9F2F2B684370BD3DB@akers.ad.unh.edu>
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:03:04 +0000
Reply-To: Resnet Forum <RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu>
From: "Kitterman, Scott" <stk@unh.edu>
To: RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimW-0+Qf0QCqBTh=8kHXtW4O6-2nA@mail.gmail.com>
--_000_37ED277C6FC42B43AE50E9F2F2B684370BD3DBakersadunhedu_
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Tony,
The University of new Hampshire acquired a /48 a couple years ago as that =
is what ARIN was offering. Since then ARIN policy has changed and they are=
more inclined to issue /32s to higher Ed if you can make a case as a LIR (=
local Internet Registry). We are currently in the process of transitioning=
to a /32. Some general items that may qualify your college is if your ins=
titution has customers outside the college, like k-12 schools, libraries, n=
on-profits, remote sites (research sites) or possibly even separate departm=
ents like CS, Electrical Eng., Physics or others.
In general we plan to assign /48s to different groups at UNH such as CS, RC=
C (Research Computing), UNH-IOL (interoperability Lab), Cooperative Extensi=
on, distance learning, WIFI networks, and others.
I did a little research and other universities of the size and character of=
UNH all have /32s. It may seem like overkill and probably is but it seems =
to be the standard for institutions like UNH. The more research I did the=
more convinced I became that a /48 would at some point limit or capabiliti=
es. As a final check, I asked industry leader in IPv6 testing and certific=
ation, UNH IOL (www.iol.unh.edu) , what they thought and they confirmed tha=
t a /32 is the norm for our type of scenario.
We have around 12k undergrads and act as an ISP for various groups around t=
he state. The /32 should give us the opportunity provide IPv6 services lim=
ited only by imagination.
I hope this is some help. Let me know if you have further questions.
Thank You,
Scott Kitterman
UNH IT
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Skal=
ski
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 11:32 AM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: IPv6 Address Blocks
You can easily get a /48 - that's what we got. My understanding is that is =
what most folks will get. If you can make a good case you might be able to =
get something slightly larger (like a /46).
A /48 should be plenty big...
ajs
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Fred Mowchan <mowchafl@acu.edu<mailto:mowc=
hafl@acu.edu>> wrote:
I'm about ready to make a request to ARIN for a block of IPv6 addres=
ses and I'm not sure what size block I should request.
I know that a /32 is about the size recommended for an ISP (which I think a=
University is) but I sure would like to see what other universities are p=
lanning for.
I've got an IPv4 "B" block now and with about 5000 students it gives=
me lots of good options without having to compromise any addressing plans.
The /32 would get me 79 septillion IP addresses...seems like enough ;-)... =
but what's the going reservation size you have or are contemplating?
___________________________________________________
You are subscribed to the ResNet-L mailing list.
To subscribe, unsubscribe or search the archives,
go to http://LISTSERV.ND.EDU/archives/resnet-l.html
___________________________________________________
--
Tony Skalski
Systems Administrator
ajs@stolaf.edu<mailto:ajs@stolaf.edu>
507-786-3227
St. Olaf College
Information and Instructional Technologies
1510 St. Olaf Avenue
Northfield, MN 55057-1097
___________________________________________________ You are subscribed to t=
he ResNet-L mailing list.
To subscribe, unsubscribe or search the archives, go to http://LISTSERV.ND.=
EDU/archives/resnet-l.html ________________________________________________=
___
___________________________________________________
You are subscribed to the ResNet-L mailing list.
To subscribe, unsubscribe or search the archives,
go to http://LISTSERV.ND.EDU/archives/resnet-l.html
___________________________________________________
--_000_37ED277C6FC42B43AE50E9F2F2B684370BD3DBakersadunhedu_
Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr=
osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =
xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns=3D"http:=
//www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"=
>
<meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)">
<style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
span.EmailStyle18
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";}
@page WordSection1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit">
<o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div class=3D"WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hello Tony,<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The University of new Ham=
pshire acquired a /48 a couple years ago as that is what ARIN was off=
ering. Since then ARIN policy has changed and they are more
inclined to issue /32s to higher Ed if you can make a case as a LIR (local=
Internet Registry). We are currently in the process of transitioning=
to a /32. Some general items that may qualify your college is if you=
r institution has customers outside the college,
like k-12 schools, libraries, non-profits, remote sites (research sites) o=
r possibly even separate departments like CS, Electrical Eng., Physics or o=
thers.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In general we plan to ass=
ign /48s to different groups at UNH such as CS, RCC (Research Computing), U=
NH-IOL (interoperability Lab), Cooperative Extension, distance
learning, WIFI networks, and others.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I did a little research a=
nd other universities of the size and character of UNH all have /32s. It ma=
y seem like overkill and probably is but it seems to be
the standard for institutions like UNH. The more research I di=
d the more convinced I became that a /48 would at some point limit or capab=
ilities. As a final check, I asked industry leader in IPv6 testing an=
d certification, UNH IOL (www.iol.unh.edu) , what
they thought and they confirmed that a /32 is the norm for our type of sce=
nario.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We have around 12k underg=
rads and act as an ISP for various groups around the state. The /32 s=
hould give us the opportunity provide IPv6 services limited only
by imagination.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I hope this is some help.=
Let me know if you have further questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank You,<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Scott Kitterman<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">UNH IT<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Resnet F=
orum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Skalski<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 09, 2011 11:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: IPv6 Address Blocks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">You can easily get a /48 - that's what we got. My un=
derstanding is that is what most folks will get. If you can make a good cas=
e you might be able to get something slightly larger (like a /46).<o:p></o:=
p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">A /48 should be plenty big...<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">ajs<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Fred Mowchan <<a=
href=3D"mailto:mowchafl@acu.edu">mowchafl@acu.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> I'm about ready to make a=
request to ARIN for a block of IPv6 addresses and I'm not sure what size b=
lock I should request.<br>
I know that a /32 is about the size recommended for an ISP (which I think a=
University is) but I sure would like to see what other universities =
are planning for.<br>
I've got an IPv4 "B" block now and wit=
h about 5000 students it gives me lots of good options without having to co=
mpromise any addressing plans.<br>
The /32 would get me 79 septillion IP addresses...seems like enough ;-)... =
but what's the going reservation size you have or are contemplating?<br>
<br>
<br>
___________________________________________________<br>
You are subscribed to the ResNet-L mailing list.<br>
<br>
To subscribe, unsubscribe or search the archives,<br>
go to <a href=3D"http://LISTSERV.ND.EDU/archives/resnet-l.html" target=3D"_=
blank">http://LISTSERV.ND.EDU/archives/resnet-l.html</a><br>
___________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
<br clear=3D"all">
<br>
-- <br>
Tony Skalski<br>
Systems Administrator<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:ajs@stolaf.edu">ajs@stolaf.edu</a><br>
507-786-3227<br>
St. Olaf College<br>
Information and Instructional Technologies<br>
1510 St. Olaf Avenue<br>
Northfield, MN 55057-1097<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">___________________________________________________ =
You are subscribed to the ResNet-L mailing list.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>To subscribe, unsubscribe or search the archives, go to <a href=3D"http:=
//LISTSERV.ND.EDU/archives/resnet-l.html">
http://LISTSERV.ND.EDU/archives/resnet-l.html</a> _________________________=
__________________________
<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</body>
</html>
___________________________________________________
You are subscribed to the ResNet-L mailing list.
<p>
To subscribe, unsubscribe or search the archives,
go to http://LISTSERV.ND.EDU/archives/resnet-l.html
___________________________________________________
--_000_37ED277C6FC42B43AE50E9F2F2B684370BD3DBakersadunhedu_--