[869] in UA Senate
Re: Agenda for 42 UAS 4
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rachel E Meyer)
Sun Oct 24 15:40:11 2010
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 15:40:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rachel E Meyer <remeyer@MIT.EDU>
To: Allan Miramonti <allanm@mit.edu>
cc: Alexandra Jordan <amjordan@mit.edu>,
"Adam Bockelie (UA History Committee Chair)" <ua-history-chairs@mit.edu>,
ua-senate-officers@mit.edu, ua-senate@mit.edu
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Before we get all up in arms... I agree that when we have formal guests=20
laptops are out of place. I realize this isn't clear in the bill, but my=
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intention was for it to apply to the actual meeting part of the meeting -=
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topic discussions, legislative debates, etc.
I'm not sure if that would be best addressed by adding a qualifying clause=
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to one of the that clauses or adding an additional that clause, but I'll=20
think about it.
-Rachel
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010, Allan Miramonti wrote:
> I agree wholeheartedly, there are clearly times when having your laptop o=
ut in front of you is just plain rude (namely when we have guest speakers.)=
=A0 I can't
> abide by any legislation that condones disrespectful behavior towards our=
guests.
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> -Al
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> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Alexandra Jordan <amjordan@mit.edu> wrot=
e:
> my only question/concern is in regards to laptops when speakers are=
here. i think we should be able to use them during all other points in the
> meeting, but it's rude to use them when someone is taking time to c=
ome talk to us. the bill would be more productive if it had clearer terms, =
such
> as: members of senate can use laptops at all times except during a =
presentation from a guest speaker. something like that. maybe with a provis=
ion
> for special circumstances, such as a closed session or something.
>
> ___________________________________
> Alexandra Jordan
>
> MIT 2011
> Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Science
> Political Science
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> amjordan@mit.edu
> 916.813.7740
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> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Rachel E Meyer <remeyer@mit.edu> wrote:
> I'm aware, but I wrote another bill because it is an issue again an=
d the presiding officers weren't responsive to my attempts to start less
> formal discussions on this.
>
> Additionally, I'd probably be for adding a "for the remainder of th=
is session" clause like I put in the minutes bill. =A0Next year if the
> Speaker/Vice-Speaker don't want laptops used and the Senators don't=
disagree then that's fine. =A0I just don't think that's the case this year=
=2E
>
> If people have other points or questions about either 4.3 or 4.4 le=
t me know or reply all. =A0I think they're fairly straightforward so it mak=
es
> more sense to address any questions/comments than to explain everyt=
hing out.
>
> -Rachel
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> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010, Adam Bockelie (UA History Committee Chair) wrote:
>
> 42 UAS 4.4 (laptops) has basically already been passed. =A0see 39 U=
AS 4.8 []
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> On 10/23/2010 10:45 PM, Jont=E9 Craighead (UA Speaker) wrote:
> Hi, everyone:
>
> Please find linked below the agenda for 42 UAS 4. We will not=
have a
> guest speaker this week.
>
> http://web.mit.edu/ua/senate/UAS42/agendas/2010-10-25.pdf
>
> You will likely notice a few changes in the agenda, which I h=
ave
> outlined below/:
> /
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> =A0 =A0* *Suggested times for business on the agenda*
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0o Since the agenda is never formally adopt=
ed by Senate, a call
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0for the "Orders of the Day" is never i=
n order according to
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Roberts' Rules. I have included a note=
on the agenda this
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0week to make this clear, but this shou=
ld be implicit with
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0any agenda submitted going forward. Ou=
r agenda stands only
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0to establish the order of items at the=
meeting in accordance
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0with the Bylaws.
> =A0 =A0* *Discussion follows all scheduled business*
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0o Based on feedback, we decided to try thi=
s measure this week
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(it has been done in the past). Everyo=
ne should be aware
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0that having discussion at the end of t=
he meeting can
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0discourage direct student feedback--it=
can quite often be
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0too late to reasonably expect other st=
udents to attend.
> =A0 =A0* *New Business section prior to open discussion*
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0o The Bylaws do not specifically prohibit =
new business at
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0meetings. As a result, we have explici=
tly added a section
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0where members may introduce new main m=
otions that did not
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0make the agenda. Given that Senators s=
hould solicit feedback
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from their constituents before voting,=
I would strongly
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0discourage the introduction of legisla=
tion that others' have
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0not had the proper time to read and co=
nsider. To introduce
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0new business, simply introduce a motio=
n before we move into
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0discussion mode.
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions--I expect that t=
hese
> changes will help Senate run more smoothly, but I would very =
much like
> to hear any opinions to the contrary.
>
> Thanks,
> Jont=E9 Craighead
>
> Speaker of the Senate
> MIT Undergraduate Association
> Course 1C: Class of 2013
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> Adam Bockelie
> 801.209.7233
> <ua-history-chairs@mit.edu>
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> MIT Undergraduate Association
> Chair, Committee on History
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