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RE: The Radical Plan on Dining Leads to MORE Choice

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael E Plasmeier)
Sat Oct 16 19:58:51 2010

Resent-From: ua-senate@MIT.EDU
From: Michael E Plasmeier <theplaz@MIT.EDU>
To: Vincent P Le <vple@mit.edu>
CC: Jessica Chen <jessicachen.dbhs@gmail.com>, Andy Wu <andywu@mit.edu>,
        Vrajesh Y Modi <vrajesh@mit.edu>, Samantha G Wyman <swyman@mit.edu>,
        "Nils
 Molina (nilsmolina@gmail.com)" <nilsmolina@gmail.com>,
        ua-exec
	<ua-exec@mit.edu>,
        "baker-forum@mit.edu" <baker-forum@mit.edu>,
        "Tom Gearty"
	<tgearty@mit.edu>, cfs <cfs@mit.edu>,
        ua-senate <ua-senate@mit.edu>, ec-discuss <ec-discuss@mit.edu>
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 19:58:30 -0400
In-Reply-To: <10043876-F846-45E1-A1A4-2A1225833C5A@mit.edu>

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Hi Vincent,

Under the HDAG plan, currently scheduled by the administration for implemen=
tation next year: you could continue to live in EC without a dining hall ju=
st like today.  However, if you chose to move into dorm with a dining hall =
(Baker, Next, Simmons) as a junior next year you would have to purchase at =
least 5 breakfasts and 5 dinners a week at a project price of $2,900/year. =
  Freshmen in those 3 dorms (plus McCormick) would be required to purchase =
7 breakfasts and 7 dinners under the projected plan at a cost of $3,800/yea=
r.  Under the HDAG plan you get a slight break.  Currently there is a readj=
ustment lottery after each year.  You can switch to Baker if someone from b=
aker wanted to move to EC.

Under my proposed plan you could select which level of the dining plan you =
want (prices are projected):
    * Hot Breakfast, Dinner $3,800/year
    * Grab and Go Breakfast, Dinner $3,600/year
    * Dinner $1,800/year
    * No dining hall (what you currently have)
At that point, (assuming enough people want to move out of a dorm to avoid =
the new plan; this was Nils objection), there would be a good chance there =
would be a spot for you in a dorm with the dining level you chose, since MI=
T would choose how many dorms to offer a program in based on actual demand)=
.  Which dorm that is I do not know yet. Which dorms offered what would be =
done to minimize the number of people who would think about moving out - ba=
sically what the majority of people in a certain dorm choose.  At that poin=
t you could choose a) to stay in EC and forget your dining b) from among th=
e dorms that offer that dining level, if there was uneven demand for dorms =
at the same dining level there would be a lottery.  Also you could also cho=
ose, another dorm with a different dining level than what you originally ch=
ose, and not your current dorm, but at a lower priority to keep room for th=
e people who preferred that dorm's dining level in the first place.

If ~300 students in dorms that currently have dining choose no dining, then=
 one of the dining halls would be closed (again which one that is, would mi=
nimize campus wide moves) , thus creating more capacity in no dining dorms.=
  This is much better than HDAG's plan which just assigned 1,200 beds at ho=
t breakfast and dinner.

Under any plan with the opening of Massey Hall (W1) crowding will disappear=
, I'm pretty sure.

You question about not fitting in with the others would have the same likel=
ihood of happening today and it would be handled the same way as today.

Remember the algorithm is desired to minimize the number of people who feel=
 that they would want to move to get the dining level of their choice.  So =
it is unlikely you will end up with all new people in your hall, and it wil=
l be very unlikely that EC will be flooded with new people seeking to avoid=
 dining.  Plus I believe that my plan will actually reduce the number of pe=
ople trying to flood into EC because it is cheap vs HDAG - since under my p=
lan if enough people don't want a dining plan and thus dining hall, one of =
the dining hall dorms could be shut down, thus creating additional non dini=
ng capacity.

Plus you do live in EC.  Just because I live in Baker does not mean I canno=
t use LDAP.  http://web.mit.edu/bin/cgicso?query=3Dvple If your whole lette=
r was a practical joke, well you just subjected EC-discuss to another email=
 from me on this issue.  Have a nice day.

-Michael Plasmeier



From: Vincent P Le
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 7:19 PM
To: Michael E Plasmeier
Cc: Jessica Chen; ec-discuss; Andy Wu; Vrajesh Y Modi; Samantha G Wyman; Ni=
ls Molina (nilsmolina@gmail.com); ua-exec; baker-forum@mit.edu; Tom Gearty;=
 cfs; ua-senate
Subject: Re: The Radical Plan on Dining Leads to MORE Choice

Your plan sounds absolutely wonderful! But I'm really confused about some t=
hings. Can you explain them to me?

First, I really really want to live in a dorm with a dining plan, maybe Bak=
er. My parents and I agreed that I would pay for everything except for tuit=
ion, and I'm already working three jobs. If I can't earn another $3800, doe=
s that mean I can't live in Baker? I also have friends at Next, does that m=
ean I can't live there either?

Let's pretend I somehow find a way to get the $3800. So your plan will let =
me move into Baker, Next, or Simmons. But isn't there a waitlist to switch =
into another dorm? I'd feel really bad skipping over all those people!

And what about everyone who will move into a non-dining dorm? Won't the non=
-dining dorms become crowded? Oh, but I guess whichever dorm I switch into =
will be less crowded, right? So if I earn enough money to pay for the new m=
eal plan, I'll also get a less crowded room?

There's one more thing, and this one's really important to me. Even though =
I really want to have a dining plan, I also really want to like the people =
I live with, and I want my dorm to be awesome! What if I move to a dining d=
orm but I really don't fit along with the people there? Or maybe, what if I=
 like everyone at my new dorm, but everyone on my floor is new and we have =
no traditions of culture?
And I wouldn't want all the non-dining dorms' culture to be affected either=
! What if everyone switching into a non-dining dorm isn't willing to contri=
bute towards that dorm's culture? For example, what if all the people movin=
g into EC aren't the kind of people who would help build their roller coast=
er? There's no way I could live at EC, but I've gotta admit that thing is f=
reakin awesome.


Sorry that I have so many questions, I'm just really confused about your pl=
an. Thanks!
Vincent

On Oct 16, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Michael E Plasmeier theplaz@mit.edu<mailto:the=
plaz@mit.edu> wrote:


(Again sorry for spamming, but I think we are having a lively discussion on=
 this issue)

The vast majority of people who wrote me trying to preserve the choice of c=
ulture independently of dining were from non-dining dorms.   They argued th=
at you should not choose your dorm based on culture - but then they say tha=
t the really hope no dining hall will open in their dorm.  THEY BASICALLY S=
AID THEY LIKE THEIR CURRENT DORM BECAUSE IT DOES NOT HAVE DINING.  And unde=
r my plan and David's plan that stays.

Look freshmen select a dorm based on a variety of factors: culture, facilit=
ies, room type, and, dining options, and cost.  P(C, F, D, $, etc) [Prefere=
nce is a function of culture, facilities, dining, cost etc] Each student's =
preference function is different.  Yes cost is important.  So far it has be=
en more or less the same, so cost has not been an issue for the vast majori=
ty of freshmen.  But cost is about to become a far bigger variable.  My pla=
n says is that if one variable changes then we should allow students to rer=
un their preference function.  Perhaps that would result in no change for t=
hem (since dining option and/or $$$ is not important to them) .  Perhaps wh=
en the student reruns their personal preference function it would lead to a=
 change in where they want to live.  Lots of students said that at the Emer=
gency UA Senate meeting they would want to move out under the HDAG plan bec=
ause of cost.  THERE MUST BE SOMEWHERE FOR THEM TO GO!  Right?  If so many =
people want to move out of hot breakfast and dining $3,800/year than less b=
eds should be available under that option on campus.

Look, all this choice in dining is expensive.  MIT cannot offer every optio=
n to everybody everywhere at a price people are willing to pay.  The vast m=
ajority of people I talk to in Baker say that they don't want all that choi=
ce at that ($3,800) price.  It is also ironic that that vast majority of pe=
ople defending the "choice" of the dining hall forms live in dorms without =
dining halls.  The 305 freshmen who listed Baker as their top choice in my =
year chose Baker because they either wanted the dinning under the current a=
rrangements or the $600/year was an acceptable tradeoff.  What my plan does=
 is let them rerun their preference function and make a new choice based on=
 the new plan.  Their choice according to their preference function.  EACH =
STUDENT SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN PERSONAL PREFERENCE FUNCTON. Whose job is it =
to say that dining service level or cost should not go in anybody's dorm pr=
eference function!!!!!  This is the EC argument.  Sure we would prefer that=
 cost or dining service not be an issue.  But the constraint is that we can=
not have dining service choice (inside each dorm) and no associated cost.  =
Look some people want to pay $3800 for all the hot breakfast and dinner the=
y can eat.  Some say no thank you.  Give students a choice.   Each student =
should be allowed to weight the dorms with the factors of their choosing an=
d if a factor changes they should be allowed (not forced, however) to move =
out.


My plan leads to more choice.  More choice than now.  Far more choice than =
HDAG's plan.

Thank you very much
-Michael Plasmeier

(David's plan goes a step further and signs you up for your desired dining =
plan, which may be at another dorm.  In exchange, it allows current student=
s to stay in their current dorm at the dining level they desire, which coul=
d be less than what the dorm offers.)  Under my plan if you choose to stay =
at your current dorm you must accept the dining level that the minimizes th=
e number of people who would have to move on campus - likely the majority v=
iew of people in your dorm.  See previous email about how costs can only be=
 met through a pre-paid plan.




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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Vincen=
t,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0p=
t;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cali=
bri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Under the HDAG plan, currently scheduled b=
y the administration for implementation next year: you could continue to li=
ve in EC without a dining hall just like today.&nbsp; However, if you chose=
 to move into dorm with a dining hall (Baker, Next, Simmons) as a junior ne=
xt year you would have to purchase at least 5 breakfasts and 5 dinners a we=
ek at a project price of $2,900/year.&nbsp;&nbsp; Freshmen in those 3 dorms=
 (plus McCormick) would be required to purchase 7 breakfasts and 7 dinners =
under the projected plan at a cost of $3,800/year.&nbsp; Under the HDAG pla=
n you get a slight break.&nbsp; Currently there is a readjustment lottery a=
fter each year.&nbsp; You can switch to Baker if someone from baker wanted =
to move to EC.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0p=
t;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Under my proposed plan =
you could select which level of the dining plan you want (prices are projec=
ted):<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *=
 Hot Breakfast, Dinner $3,800/year<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:=
#1F497D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * Grab and Go Breakfast, Dinner $3,600/year <o:=
p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;* Di=
nner $1,800/year<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; * No dining hall (what you currently have)<o:p></o:p></span></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","=
sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>At that point, (assuming enough people want to m=
ove out of a dorm to avoid the new plan; this was Nils objection), there wo=
uld be a good chance there would be a spot for you in a dorm with the dinin=
g level you chose, since MIT would choose how many dorms to offer a program=
 in based on actual demand).&nbsp; Which dorm that is I do not know yet. Wh=
ich dorms offered what would be done to minimize the number of people who w=
ould think about moving out &#8211; basically what the majority of people i=
n a certain dorm choose.&nbsp; At that point you could choose a) to stay in=
 EC and forget your dining b) from among the dorms that offer that dining l=
evel, if there was uneven demand for dorms at the same dining level there w=
ould be a lottery.&nbsp; Also you could also choose, another dorm with a di=
fferent dining level than what you originally chose, and not your current d=
orm, but at a lower priority to keep room for the people who preferred that=
 dorm&#8217;s dining level in the first place.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-s=
erif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span=
 style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D=
'>If ~300 students in dorms that currently have dining choose no dining, th=
en one of the dining halls would be closed (again which one that is, would =
minimize campus wide moves) , thus creating more capacity in no dining dorm=
s.&nbsp; This is much better than HDAG&#8217;s plan which just assigned 1,2=
00 beds at hot breakfast and dinner.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";colo=
r:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Under an=
y plan with the opening of Massey Hall (W1) crowding will disappear, I&#821=
7;m pretty sure.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You question about not fitti=
ng in with the others would have the same likelihood of happening today and=
 it would be handled the same way as today.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
>Remember the algorithm is desired to minimize the number of people who fee=
l that they would want to move to get the dining level of their choice.&nbs=
p; So it is unlikely you will end up with all new people in your hall, and =
it will be very unlikely that EC will be flooded with new people seeking to=
 avoid dining.&nbsp; Plus I believe that my plan will actually reduce the n=
umber of people trying to flood into EC because it is cheap vs HDAG &#8211;=
 since under my plan if enough people don&#8217;t want a dining plan and th=
us dining hall, one of the dining hall dorms could be shut down, thus creat=
ing additional non dining capacity.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color=
:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Plus you =
do live in EC.&nbsp; Just because I live in Baker does not mean I cannot us=
e LDAP.&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://web.mit.edu/bin/cgicso?query=3Dvple">http:/=
/web.mit.edu/bin/cgicso?query=3Dvple</a> If your whole letter was a practic=
al joke, well you just subjected EC-discuss to another email from me on thi=
s issue.&nbsp; Have a nice day.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F=
497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Michael Plas=
meier<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"C=
alibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
MsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif=
";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none=
;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>=
From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-=
serif"'> Vincent P Le <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 16, 2010 7:19 PM<b=
r><b>To:</b> Michael E Plasmeier<br><b>Cc:</b> Jessica Chen; ec-discuss; An=
dy Wu; Vrajesh Y Modi; Samantha G Wyman; Nils Molina (nilsmolina@gmail.com)=
; ua-exec; baker-forum@mit.edu; Tom Gearty; cfs; ua-senate<br><b>Subject:</=
b> Re: The Radical Plan on Dining Leads to MORE Choice<o:p></o:p></span></p=
></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal=
>Your plan sounds absolutely wonderful! But I'm really confused about some =
things. Can you explain them to me?<br><br>First, I really really want to l=
ive in a dorm with a dining plan, maybe Baker. My parents and I agreed that=
 I would pay for everything except for tuition, and I'm already working thr=
ee jobs. If I can't earn another $3800, does that mean I can't live in Bake=
r? I also have friends at Next, does that mean I can't live there either?<b=
r><br>Let's pretend I somehow find a way to get the $3800. So your plan wil=
l let me move into Baker, Next, or Simmons. But isn't there a waitlist to s=
witch into another dorm? I'd feel really bad skipping over all those people=
!&nbsp;<br><br>And what about everyone who will move into a non-dining dorm=
? Won't the non-dining dorms become crowded? Oh, but I guess whichever dorm=
 I switch into will be less crowded, right? So if I earn enough money to pa=
y for the new meal plan, I'll also get a less crowded room?<br><br>There's =
one more thing, and this one's really important to me. Even though I really=
 want to have a dining plan, I also really want to like the people I live w=
ith, and I want my dorm to be awesome! What if I move to a dining dorm but =
I really don't fit along with the people there? Or maybe, what if I like ev=
eryone at my new dorm, but everyone on my floor is new and we have no tradi=
tions of culture?&nbsp;<br>And I wouldn't want all the non-dining dorms' cu=
lture to be affected either! What if everyone switching into a non-dining d=
orm isn't willing to contribute towards that dorm's culture? For example, w=
hat if all the people moving into EC aren't the kind of people who would he=
lp build their roller coaster? There's no way I could live at EC, but I've =
gotta admit that thing is freakin awesome.<br><br><br>Sorry that I have so =
many questions, I'm just really confused about your plan. Thanks!<br>Vincen=
t<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal>On Oct 16, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Michael E Plasmeier <a href=
=3D"mailto:theplaz@mit.edu">theplaz@mit.edu</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
<span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>(Again =
sorry for spamming, but I think we are having a lively discussion on this i=
ssue)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The vast majority of people who wrote me tryi=
ng to preserve the choice of culture independently of dining were from non-=
dining dorms.&nbsp; &nbsp;They argued that you should not choose your dorm =
based on culture &#8211; but then they say that the really hope no dining h=
all will open in their dorm.&nbsp; THEY BASICALLY SAID THEY LIKE THEIR CURR=
ENT DORM BECAUSE IT DOES NOT HAVE DINING.&nbsp; And under my plan and David=
&#8217;s plan that stays.&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","san=
s-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span=
 style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Look freshme=
n select a dorm based on a variety of factors: culture, facilities, room ty=
pe, and, dining options, and cost.&nbsp; P(C, F, D, $, etc) [Preference is =
a function of culture, facilities, dining, cost etc] Each student&#8217;s p=
reference function is different.&nbsp; Yes cost is important.&nbsp; So far =
it has been more or less the same, so cost has not been an issue for the va=
st majority of freshmen.&nbsp; But cost is about to become a far bigger var=
iable.&nbsp; My plan says is that if one variable changes then we should<sp=
an class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><u>allow</u><span class=3Dapp=
le-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>students to rerun their preference function=
.&nbsp; Perhaps that would result in no change for them (since dining optio=
n and/or $$$ is not important to them) .&nbsp; Perhaps when the student rer=
uns their personal preference function it would lead to a change in where t=
hey want to live.&nbsp; Lots of students said that at the Emergency UA Sena=
te meeting they would want to move out under the HDAG plan because of cost.=
&nbsp; THERE MUST BE SOMEWHERE FOR THEM TO GO!&nbsp; Right?&nbsp; If so man=
y people want to move out of hot breakfast and dining $3,800/year than less=
 beds should be available under that option on campus.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif"'>Look, all this choice in dining is expensive.&nbsp; MIT cannot offer =
every option to everybody everywhere at a price people are willing to pay.&=
nbsp; The vast majority of people I talk to in Baker say that they don&#821=
7;t want all that choice at that ($3,800) price.&nbsp; It is also ironic th=
at that vast majority of people defending the &#8220;choice&#8221; of the d=
ining hall forms live in dorms without dining halls. &nbsp;The 305 freshmen=
 who listed Baker as their top choice in my year chose Baker because they e=
ither wanted the dinning under the current arrangements or the $600/year wa=
s an acceptable tradeoff.&nbsp; What my plan does is let them rerun their p=
reference function and make a new choice based on the new plan.&nbsp; Their=
 choice according to their preference function.&nbsp; EACH STUDENT SHOULD H=
AVE THEIR OWN PERSONAL PREFERENCE FUNCTON.&nbsp;</span><b><u><span style=3D=
'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Whose job is it to sa=
y that dining service level or cost should not go in anybody&#8217;s dorm p=
reference function!!!!!</span></u></b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp; This is the EC argument.&nbsp; Sure w=
e would prefer that cost or dining service not be an issue.&nbsp; But the c=
onstraint is that we cannot have dining service choice (inside each dorm) a=
nd no associated cost.<b>&nbsp; Look some people want to pay $3800 for all =
the hot breakfast and dinner they can eat.&nbsp; Some say no thank you.&nbs=
p; Give students a choice.&nbsp;&nbsp; Each student should be allowed to we=
ight the dorms with the factors of their choosing and if a factor changes t=
hey should be allowed (not forced, however) to move out.</b><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></b><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cal=
ibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-ser=
if"'>My plan leads to more choice.&nbsp; More choice than now.&nbsp; Far mo=
re choice than HDAG&#8217;s plan.</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt=
;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","s=
ans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"C=
alibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Tha=
nk you very much</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cal=
ibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>-Mich=
ael Plasmeier</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibr=
i","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><=
span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</=
span></b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"=
'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>(David&#8217;s plan goes a=
 step further and signs you up for your desired dining plan, which may be a=
t another dorm.&nbsp; In exchange, it allows current students to stay in th=
eir current dorm at the dining level they desire, which could be less than =
what the dorm offers.)&nbsp; Under my plan if you choose to stay at your cu=
rrent dorm you must accept the dining level<span class=3Dapple-converted-sp=
ace>&nbsp;</span><b>that the minimizes the number of people who would have =
to move on campus &#8211; likely the majority view of people in your dorm.&=
nbsp;<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></b>See previous emai=
l about how costs can only be met through a pre-paid plan.<o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calib=
ri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div></body></html>=

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