[171] in UA Exec
Re: Notification of 'Printer in the W20 "Game Room"' Project
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Youchak)
Sun Dec 6 21:51:18 2009
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:50:54 -0500
From: Paul Youchak <youchakp@MIT.EDU>
To: Tim Jenks <trjenks@gmail.com>
CC: Quentin Smith <quentin@mit.edu>, Geoffrey Thomas <geofft@mit.edu>,
"Vrajesh Modi (UA Special Projects Committee)" <ua-projects-chairs@mit.edu>,
ua-senate@mit.edu, ua-exec@mit.edu
In-Reply-To: <a0c7d52e0912061832r51dc6271x6c2cf8d9cc2b2fcd@mail.gmail.com>
Seconded.
Paul Youchak
Tim Jenks wrote:
> I think this is an excellent idea that would be of great benefit to
> the student body. It seems like it has a lot of parallels with the
> Saferide TV that we passed in 41 UAS 5.2. This printer project seems
> be overpriced, its probably going to run behind schedule, UA members
> are not ultimately in control of the project, but when it does happen,
> it will be awesome. Because these two projects are similar, i'd
> appreciate an update on the project that we spent $5000 on before we
> allocate the money for this project. I would also feel a lot better
> about voting for allocating the money for this project if I could see
> an itemized budget with a small defense for the different parts of the
> project. Kind of like student groups have to do for Finboard, and the
> Treasurer must do for the UA's semesterly budget. It just seems like
> a good process to go through. $1000 is not an insignificant amount
> of money, and an explanation of where our pennies and nickels are
> going would ease my qualms about this money being used effectively.
>
> $0.02,
> --Tim Jenks
> Fraternities Representative
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Quentin Smith <quentin@mit.edu
> <mailto:quentin@mit.edu>> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Geoffrey Thomas wrote:
>
> On Sat, 5 Dec 2009, Quentin Smith wrote:
>
> IS&T is funding the purchase of the new printer, which
> they probably would have done anyway. I believe the intent
> is for the UA's money to contribute only to physical
> security; this may include adding card access or
> electronic passcode locks.
>
>
> The e-mail containing the funding bill asserts that physical
> security would cost O($4k).
>
>
> Right; we're trying to get CAC to contribute as well.
>
>
>
> You are presuming wrong - the current plan is to put in a
> fast Xerox printer.
>
>
> How much is this printer?
>
>
> I do not know and I do not think a specific model has been
> selected yet. However, note that the proposal was for 50ppm
> *duplex*, so >100ppm single-sided.
>
>
> The Xerox 4150n on kslprinters.com <http://kslprinters.com> is
> $700, and has 45ppm and an 8-second warmup time, for $800. If
> you compromise a bit more, the 3124 gets you 25ppm and 9
> seconds to warm up, for $180. So I'm not seeing the $6.5k
> proposed budget, and I think it's important that if the UA and
> not just IS&T participates in this, the budget should be a
> little more evident.
>
>
> And the final consideration is how long until the printer breaks.
> I don't expect a $180 printer to last more than O(months) with our
> abuse. In any case, the bulk of the cost will be paid by IS&T.
>
>
> Also, it is likely, though not for sure yet, that w20color
> will move into W20-575 and thus there will still be six
> printers, including a color one.
>
>
> This is great news! Presumably w20color will then be
> completely free of charge?
>
>
> I have no details, but I'm pretty sure it has no charge now either.
>
> --Quentin
>
>
