[172] in UA Exec
Re: Notification of 'Printer in the W20 "Game Room"' Project
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alexandra M Jordan)
Mon Dec 7 16:30:31 2009
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:28:38 -0500
From: Alexandra M Jordan <amjordan@MIT.EDU>
To: Paul Youchak <youchakp@mit.edu>
Cc: Tim Jenks <trjenks@gmail.com>, Quentin Smith <quentin@mit.edu>,
Geoffrey Thomas <geofft@mit.edu>,
"Vrajesh Modi (UA Special Projects
Committee)" <ua-projects-chairs@mit.edu>,
ua-senate@mit.edu, ua-exec@mit.edu
In-Reply-To: <4B1C6D8E.1060803@mit.edu>
Thirded. I'd like an update on the SafeRide TV project, and as close to an
itemized budget as possible to be presented during discussion of this bill.
Alex Jordan
Sorority Senator
Quoting Paul Youchak <youchakp@MIT.EDU>:
> Seconded.
>
> Paul Youchak
>
> Tim Jenks wrote:
>> I think this is an excellent idea that would be of great benefit to
>> the student body. It seems like it has a lot of parallels with the
>> Saferide TV that we passed in 41 UAS 5.2. This printer project
>> seems be overpriced, its probably going to run behind schedule, UA
>> members are not ultimately in control of the project, but when it
>> does happen, it will be awesome. Because these two projects are
>> similar, i'd appreciate an update on the project that we spent $5000
>> on before we allocate the money for this project. I would also feel
>> a lot better about voting for allocating the money for this project
>> if I could see an itemized budget with a small defense for the
>> different parts of the project. Kind of like student groups have to
>> do for Finboard, and the Treasurer must do for the UA's semesterly
>> budget. It just seems like a good process to go through. $1000 is
>> not an insignificant amount of money, and an explanation of where
>> our pennies and nickels are going would ease my qualms about this
>> money being used effectively.
>>
>> $0.02,
>> --Tim Jenks
>> Fraternities Representative
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Quentin Smith <quentin@mit.edu
>> <mailto:quentin@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Geoffrey Thomas wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 5 Dec 2009, Quentin Smith wrote:
>>
>> IS&T is funding the purchase of the new printer, which
>> they probably would have done anyway. I believe the intent
>> is for the UA's money to contribute only to physical
>> security; this may include adding card access or
>> electronic passcode locks.
>>
>>
>> The e-mail containing the funding bill asserts that physical
>> security would cost O($4k).
>>
>>
>> Right; we're trying to get CAC to contribute as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> You are presuming wrong - the current plan is to put in a
>> fast Xerox printer.
>>
>>
>> How much is this printer?
>>
>>
>> I do not know and I do not think a specific model has been
>> selected yet. However, note that the proposal was for 50ppm
>> *duplex*, so >100ppm single-sided.
>>
>>
>> The Xerox 4150n on kslprinters.com <http://kslprinters.com> is
>> $700, and has 45ppm and an 8-second warmup time, for $800. If
>> you compromise a bit more, the 3124 gets you 25ppm and 9
>> seconds to warm up, for $180. So I'm not seeing the $6.5k
>> proposed budget, and I think it's important that if the UA and
>> not just IS&T participates in this, the budget should be a
>> little more evident.
>>
>>
>> And the final consideration is how long until the printer breaks.
>> I don't expect a $180 printer to last more than O(months) with our
>> abuse. In any case, the bulk of the cost will be paid by IS&T.
>>
>>
>> Also, it is likely, though not for sure yet, that w20color
>> will move into W20-575 and thus there will still be six
>> printers, including a color one.
>>
>>
>> This is great news! Presumably w20color will then be
>> completely free of charge?
>>
>>
>> I have no details, but I'm pretty sure it has no charge now either.
>>
>> --Quentin
>>
>>
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