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Re: Level(3) faux paux

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (trainier@kalsec.com)
Thu Jul 12 09:23:18 2007

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To: "nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
From: trainier@kalsec.com
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:18:12 -0400
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owner-nanog@merit.edu wrote on 07/12/2007 01:56:32 AM:

> I have noticed that Level(3) misconfigs/outages seem to happen more=20
> frequently than with most other Tier 1?s.  Am unsure whether or not=20
> this is a mis-statement, but based on NANOG posts, Level(3) [AS3356]
> seems to show up more often with issues than say Sprint [AS1239].

As mentioned previously, there are a lot of variables that effect this=20
claim.

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> Is their any one (or any coporation) that keeps track of outages=20
> such as these?  Would think it might be a good thing to know for=20
> proper mulit-homing relationships to minimize the type of outage=20
> that Yahoo faced?

A lot of businesses include this sort of data in their quarterly reports.=20
Some of your questions might be answered by
reports like this one =3D>=20
http://www.level3.com/newsroom/pressreleases/2007/20070426.html

Additionally, I'd do a Google search for terms like "System Availability"=20
and include some Tier 1 providers to see
what kind of data comes back.  Then just go from there.

Best regards,

Tim Rainier
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<br>
<br><tt><font size=3D2>owner-nanog@merit.edu wrote on 07/12/2007 01:56:32
AM:<br>
<br>
&gt; I have noticed that Level(3) misconfigs/outages seem to happen more
<br>
&gt; frequently than with most other Tier 1&#8217;s. &nbsp;Am unsure whether
or not <br>
&gt; this is a mis-statement, but based on NANOG posts, Level(3) [AS3356]<b=
r>
&gt; seems to show up more often with issues than say Sprint [AS1239].</fon=
t></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=3D2>As mentioned previously, there are a lot of variables
that effect this claim.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=3D2>&nbsp; <br>
&gt; Is their any one (or any coporation) that keeps track of outages <br>
&gt; such as these? &nbsp;Would think it might be a good thing to know
for <br>
&gt; proper mulit-homing relationships to minimize the type of outage <br>
&gt; that Yahoo faced&#8230;</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=3D2>A lot of businesses include this sort of data in the=
ir
quarterly reports. &nbsp;Some of your questions might be answered by</font>=
</tt>
<br><tt><font size=3D2>reports like this one =3D&gt; </font></tt><a href=3D=
http://www.level3.com/newsroom/pressreleases/2007/20070426.html><tt><font s=
ize=3D2>http://www.level3.com/newsroom/pressreleases/2007/20070426.html</fo=
nt></tt></a>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=3D2>Additionally, I'd do a Google search for terms like
&quot;System Availability&quot; and include some Tier 1 providers to see</f=
ont></tt>
<br><tt><font size=3D2>what kind of data comes back. &nbsp;Then just go from
there.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=3D2>Best regards,</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=3D2>Tim Rainier</font></tt><font size=3D3 face=3D"sans-s=
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