[97833] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Level(3) faux paux
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Charles Yamasaki)
Thu Jul 12 02:42:12 2007
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:22:16 -0700
From: Charles Yamasaki <charles.yamasaki@move.com>
To: "Chris L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow@verizonbusiness.com>,
"Security Admin (NetSec)" <secadmin@netsecdesign.com>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0707120604130.1179@marvin.argfrp.us.uu.net>
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Cuz they are taking over at a rate that their best engineers can=B9t meet.
On 7/11/07 11:08 PM, "Chris L. Morrow"
<christopher.morrow@verizonbusiness.com> wrote:
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> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007, Security Admin (NetSec) wrote:
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>> > I have noticed that Level(3) misconfigs/outages seem to happen more
>> > frequently than with most other Tier 1's. Am unsure whether or not th=
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> maybe they have a larger change-rate? or more folks that notice problems
> and complain here? (note that I don't know but suspect everyone has a
> relatively close approximation of this figure at a certain place in the
> network-size-tiering)
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>> > show up more often with issues than say Sprint [AS1239]. Is their any
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> (cause they don't let Ted on routers anymore...)
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>> > one (or any coporation) that keeps track of outages such as these?
>> > Would think it might be a good thing to know for proper mulit-homing
>> > relationships to minimize the type of outage that Yahoo faced...
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> Because someone 3 as-hops away sucking down your prefix and traffic is
> your direct provider's problem how?
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> -Chris
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007, Security Admin (NetSec) wrote:<BR>
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> I have noticed that Level(3) misconfigs/outages seem to happen more<BR=
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> frequently than with most other Tier 1's. Am unsure whether or n=
ot this<BR>
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maybe they have a larger change-rate? or more folks that notice problems<BR=
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and complain here? (note that I don't know but suspect everyone has a<BR>
relatively close approximation of this figure at a certain place in the<BR>
network-size-tiering)<BR>
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> show up more often with issues than say Sprint [AS1239]. Is thei=
r any<BR>
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(cause they don't let Ted on routers anymore...)<BR>
<BR>
> one (or any coporation) that keeps track of outages such as these?<BR>
> Would think it might be a good thing to know for proper mulit-homing<B=
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> relationships to minimize the type of outage that Yahoo faced...<BR>
<BR>
Because someone 3 as-hops away sucking down your prefix and traffic is<BR>
your direct provider's problem how?<BR>
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-Chris<BR>
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