[95751] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ICANNs role [was: Re: On-going ...]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gadi Evron)
Tue Apr 3 07:13:50 2007
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 06:04:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>
To: Andy Davidson <andy@nosignal.org>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <83F8FC60-79B5-49D1-8343-7F538921BD3E@nosignal.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Tue, 3 Apr 2007, Andy Davidson wrote:
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>
> On 3 Apr 2007, at 03:02, Gadi Evron wrote:
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> > What are your thoughts on basic suggestions such as:
> > 1. Allowing registrars to terminate domains based on abuse, rather
> > than just fake contact details.
>
> I don't like this because its impossible to define abuse clearly
> enough in this context.
>
> If a fictitious web-shop 'nice-but-dim.com' get a box owned which has
> the reverse dns set to something in that zone, is this abuse ?
> Yes .. sort of, but it's no business of the registry. Is registering
> a domain name which causes offense to some people abuse ? It might
> be, but its no reason not to let the domain name registration go
> through. What if you and I fall out, and I manage to build a case
> against you to get linuxbox.org de-registered ? Do you want to spend
> time and effort fighting it ?
>
> Who arbitrates/polices this scheme ?
>
> Who pays for any mistakes ?
>
> Who decides when the domain name can be re-registered ?
>
> What about when someone registers a domain name in an international
> registry that doesn't want to implement the scheme, or perhaps isn't
> allowed to because its governance forbids it ?
Now that we ask the questions, prhaps we can come up with *some* answers.
>
> Some bad people have their names and numbers listed in the phone
> book. I can setup a fraudulent window cleaning company with no
> desire to do a good job for any of my customers .. does this mean 411
> or the yellow pages should delist me when someone complains ? DNS is
> another directory.
>
> DNS is no more than a way for me to say "Hey, where's Fred', to get a
> reply saying 'here he is'. DNS shouldn't whisper in my ear, 'but
> Fred is a bit dodgy'. If Fred is doing something illegal he should
> be in jail. This analogy isn't very good, but I need another coffee
> before I can think of a better one. :-)
>
>
> -a
>