[95023] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: botnets: web servers, end-systems and Vint Cerf
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gadi Evron)
Sat Feb 17 20:34:40 2007
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:22:24 -0600 (CST)
From: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>
To: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.64.0702171951160.21624@clifden.donelan.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, Sean Donelan wrote:
>
> On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, Gadi Evron wrote:
> >> Public ISPs have been testing these types of systems for over 5 years.
> >> What sorts of differences can you think of that would explain why public
> >> ISPs have found them not very effective?
> >>
> >> Public ISPs have been using walled gardens for a long time for user
> >> registration and collecting credit card information. So they know how to
> >> implement walled gardens. But what happens when public ISPs use it for
> >> infected machines?
> >>
> >
> > Many already do, successfully.
> >
> > When I say many I actually mean I know of 6. 3 of them huge, 3 of them
> > relatively small.
>
> Interesting use of the word "many." Many people use Multics.
:))
> I know of "many" more that have tested it and returned it to various
> vendors. There are several tough problems people are still trying
> to solve.
Yes, but that is because the successful ISPs currently often implement
their own if they have the resources and R&D power. The really big ones
have it automated, the small ones have it limited to be "activated by an
abuse desk person".
Gadi.
