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Re: botnets: web servers, end-systems and Vint Cerf

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fergie)
Sat Feb 17 20:29:08 2007

From: "Fergie" <fergdawg@netzero.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:10:44 GMT
To: danny@tcb.net
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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Hey, Danny:

- -- Danny McPherson <danny@tcb.net> wrote:

>While I understand your frustration, lest we not forget, providers  =

are in
>the business of making money, and solutions of this type today only add=

>to churn, additional operational expense and liability.  It's not  =

quite so
>black and white as you make it, unfortunately.

Unfortunately, if ISPs don't do _something_ to "clean up their
own backyards", I hate to think of what the alternative may be.

>With that, as Sean points out, providers are trying to address the  =

issues
>in an business-savvy manner and some do seem to have reasonable (IMO)
>solutions underway.  But be careful what you ask for, some of these
>solutions you're mandating might very well resemble SiteFinder-style
>schema's (or far worse) in order to justify the investment by the  =

>providers.

Indeed.

It's a hairy problem, but an important one that needs to be
addressed.

- - ferg

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 Engineering Architecture for the Internet
 fergdawg(at)netzero.net
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