[95022] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: botnets: web servers, end-systems and Vint Cerf
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fergie)
Sat Feb 17 20:29:08 2007
From: "Fergie" <fergdawg@netzero.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:10:44 GMT
To: danny@tcb.net
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
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Hey, Danny:
- -- Danny McPherson <danny@tcb.net> wrote:
>While I understand your frustration, lest we not forget, providers =
are in
>the business of making money, and solutions of this type today only add=
>to churn, additional operational expense and liability. It's not =
quite so
>black and white as you make it, unfortunately.
Unfortunately, if ISPs don't do _something_ to "clean up their
own backyards", I hate to think of what the alternative may be.
>With that, as Sean points out, providers are trying to address the =
issues
>in an business-savvy manner and some do seem to have reasonable (IMO)
>solutions underway. But be careful what you ask for, some of these
>solutions you're mandating might very well resemble SiteFinder-style
>schema's (or far worse) in order to justify the investment by the =
>providers.
Indeed.
It's a hairy problem, but an important one that needs to be
addressed.
- - ferg
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Engineering Architecture for the Internet
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