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Re: botnets: web servers, end-systems and Vint Cerf

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sean Donelan)
Sat Feb 17 20:50:05 2007

Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 20:42:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>
To: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0702171920580.17063-100000@linuxbox.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, Gadi Evron wrote:
> Yes, but that is because the successful ISPs currently often implement
> their own if they have the resources and R&D power. The really big ones
> have it automated, the small ones have it limited to be "activated by an
> abuse desk person".

And I also know "many" ISPs that developed home-grown systems and had to
abandoned them due to various problems.

Until you understand the differences and why various attempts haven't
worked, you are doomed to repeat the same mistakes; and unlikely to
be successfull beyond a few limited environments.

Is there a significant difference between the "many" ISPs implementing
walled gardens and other ISPs as far as infection rates?

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