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Re: OT: How to stop UltraDNS sales people calling

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Derek J. Balling)
Tue Nov 28 23:54:54 2006

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From: "Derek J. Balling" <deballing@vassar.edu>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:48:11 -0500
To: nanog list <nanog@merit.edu>
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On Nov 28, 2006, at 6:56 PM, Gadi Evron wrote:
> Okay, this was fun and I am all for OT fun. But can we please stop  
> putting
> down a part of our community? Especially one which contributes to  
> NANOG so
> much?
>
> We all have sale trolls to live with.

Like someone else said, I both agree and disagree.

I agree that the OT thread has probably gone on long enough.

I disagree with your implied assertion that because "[UltraDNS]  
contributes to NANOG so much" that they deserve a bye. Scummy  
business practices are scummy business practices. Period. Full-stop.  
Just because they contribute to an organization doesn't mean that the  
organization should feel obligated to keep quiet about their  
misdeeds.  It may very well be a "rogue" within their organization  
causing the problem, but if they're that involved in NANOG then  
someone is probably being crucified as we speak, and maybe they'll  
chime in with their side of the story about how they've corrected the  
problem. If they haven't, then, frankly, this less-than-flattering  
portrayal of UltraDNS is not entirely undeserved.

Cheers,
D


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