[75638] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Nov 19 12:45:20 2004
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:45:36 -0800
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
To: "J.A. Terranson" <alif.terranson@gmail.com>,
NANOG list <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <ff8dd8ff04111904482430f2a@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
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Any org viewing ASNs as a scarce resource is wasting money keeping ASNs.
Any org that financially broken will probably not continue to pay it's
bills in the long run.
I believe these are the exception and not the rule. Like I said, the
long-term answer to this is 32bit ASNs. I don't think hoarding will =
account
for a significant portion of the ASN space in the long run.
Owen
--On Friday, November 19, 2004 6:48 AM -0600 "J.A. Terranson"=20
<alif.terranson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:28:55 +0100, Jeroen Massar <jeroen@unfix.org>
> wrote:
>> On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 08:18 +0100, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
>>
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>> > On 2004-11-16, at 02.24, Owen DeLong wrote:
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>> > > ASNs issued today are subject to annual renewal. While this is a
>> > > small charge and doesn't go up based on the number of ASNs, so, not
>> > > 100% effective at reclaiming all unused resources, it does, at =
least,
>> > > reclaim resources in use by defunct organizations that are no longer
>> > > paying the maintenance for them.
>
> Yes, but what about the (dozens, hundreds?) of entities that are
> hoarding (and renewing) ASNs? These unused resources are gone forever
> - since they are seen as a scarce resource, they are kept artificially
> alive (even though the orgs know full well there is neither a use nor
> a justification for them).
>
>
> //Alif
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If it wasn't crypto-signed, it probably didn't come from me.
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