[75625] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeroen Massar)
Fri Nov 19 08:03:58 2004
From: Jeroen Massar <jeroen@unfix.org>
To: "J.A. Terranson" <alif.terranson@gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <ff8dd8ff04111904482430f2a@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:01:26 +0100
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On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 06:48 -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:28:55 +0100, Jeroen Massar <jeroen@unfix.org> wrot=
e:
> > On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 08:18 +0100, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
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> > > On 2004-11-16, at 02.24, Owen DeLong wrote:
> > >
> > > > ASNs issued today are subject to annual renewal. While this is a
> > > > small charge and doesn't go up based on the number of ASNs, so, not
> > > > 100% effective at reclaiming all unused resources, it does, at leas=
t,
> > > > reclaim resources in use by defunct organizations that are no longe=
r
> > > > paying the maintenance for them.
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> Yes, but what about the (dozens, hundreds?) of entities that are
> hoarding (and renewing) ASNs? These unused resources are gone forever
> - since they are seen as a scarce resource, they are kept artificially
> alive (even though the orgs know full well there is neither a use nor
> a justification for them).
Then demonstrate to the RIR's that the ASN is unused or kept
artificially alive and let them recover it...
Nobody is complaining about companies who simply registered [a-z]*.com
for instance... someone will make profit, good for them and you are too
late to jump into that game. That is always with scarce resources. The
first persons to say that gold was special and had a high value is (most
likely, nanog !=3Dhistory) quite wealthy now, just like some folks who got
some nice /8's in the beginning don't have an address shortage, domains
where available for the pickup in the beginning etc...
Greets,
Jeroen
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