[72109] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BGP list of phishing sites?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Iljitsch van Beijnum)
Tue Jun 29 20:47:31 2004
In-Reply-To: <20040629205356.51050.qmail@web14921.mail.yahoo.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:45:31 +0200
To: David Barak <thegameiam@yahoo.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On 29-jun-04, at 22:53, David Barak wrote:
>> Einstein taught as that even the simple act of
>> observation influences our surroundings. Wouldn't it make sense to
>> try to
>> leverage this influence such that the future is shaped more to our
>> liking, however small the change may be?
> nitpick: it wasn't Einstein, but rather Heisenberg who
> developed the uncertainty principle.
Einstein's take on this was to ridicule it somewhat:
"When a person such as a mouse observes the universe, does that change
the state of the universe?"
> The principle has been analogized to describe larger
> systems and items, and is a useful but not always
> completely accurate metaphor. It is entirely possible
> to observe some things without affecting them.
Is it? If I want to look at you, I must bounce photons off of you.
Similar stuff needs to happen for other types of observation. This may
not have a very large effect on you, but there is _some_ effect.
