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Re: BGP list of phishing sites?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dan Hollis)
Tue Jun 29 18:48:23 2004

Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:46:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Hollis <goemon@anime.net>
To: Michael.Dillon@radianz.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <OF0EF2919A.A448FF47-ON80256EC2.00358FD0-80256EC2.00360AD9@radianz.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 Michael.Dillon@radianz.com wrote:
> If they are notified that they are an 
> accessory to a crime and do not take any
> action, then doesn't this make the provider
> liable to criminal charges?

You would think it would. But who bothers to prosecute? No one.

> Did you really inform the provider's legal department of
> this fact or did you just send an email to some dumb droids in the 
> abuse department?

Yes and I was told they would not do anything unless they received a 
subpoena or law enforcement forced them to shut it down, and that if I 
wanted action I should talk to the police instead.

> Quite frankly, I don't consider messages to
> the complaints/abuse department to be "notice".
> How long does it take to find a head office
> fax number and draft up a legalistic looking
> "notice" document addressed to their legal 
> department?

Not long, but its a waste of time because they wont do anything anyway.

The only way to get their attention is with blacklists.

-Dan


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