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RE: Automated DLR conflict detection

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marc Pierrat)
Thu Dec 27 14:11:37 2001

From: "Marc Pierrat" <marc@sunchar.com>
To: "Peter Galbavy" <peter.galbavy@knowtion.net>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:11:42 -0500
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It's a great question.  For an operator to offer such a contract, I =
would imagine these assumptions must hold true:

1) The operator has a profit motivation: to sell what you and others =
will buy
2) that you and others are willing to pay a premium for a service that =
includes consequential damages in the SLA over a service that does not
3) that consequential damages can be defined to mutual satisfaction
4) the operator has the ability to quantify what the premium should be =
(the statistics of reliability and service delivery economics)
5) Starting reliability plus the overhead burden of managing such an SLA =
is such that the calculated premium is both marketable and profitable

I might have missed a few, but it's a start - Is this how you see the =
problem?

Marc
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Galbavy [mailto:peter.galbavy@knowtion.net]
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 6:32 AM
To: Marc Pierrat; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Automated DLR conflict detection


You misunderstand. Which operators will offer this (backed by some
underwritten insurance) in an effort to be better than the competition ?

Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Pierrat" <marc@sunchar.com>
To: <nanog@merit.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 6:50 PM
Subject: RE: Automated DLR conflict detection


>On many occasions in my prior life at Demon Internet we laughed sales
people
>out of meetings when they offered SLAs that were limited to the value =
of a
>months service. But, in the end *all* the salepeople offered the same =
deal.
>Until when SLAs come with a pay back greater than the cost of the =
contract,
>and in fact cover consequential losses, most service providers will =
treat
>the failure to deliver within the SLA as a risk associated with the =
service
>and not something more serious.

However: Would you (or anyone in the group) be willing to pay a premium =
for
that, and how much is a "real" SLA, one covering consequential losses, =
worth
to you?

Marc Pierrat
marc@sunchar.com
www.sunchar.com





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