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Re: Automated DLR conflict detection

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen Sprunk)
Mon Dec 31 11:15:18 2001

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From: "Stephen Sprunk" <ssprunk@cisco.com>
To: "EA Louie" <elouie@yahoo.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:11:14 -0600
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Thus spake "EA Louie" <elouie@yahoo.com>
> That may have been true during your genre of CCIE's, but not with the
latest
> round of CCIE's, my friends... you should see the posts I see on the ccie
> lab mailing lists.  Its enough to scare even me, and I don't scare easily.

The people studying for CCIE can be scary.  The failure rate is extremely
high, and most (but unfortunately not all) of the people who pass are
reasonably clueful.

> The latest round of study materials is creating a "puppy mill" of CCIEs -
> inexperienced, money-hungry, power-conscious, and absolutely clueless.  I
> wouldn't give most of them the enable passwords to my routers...

A certification does not absolve you from due diligence during the hiring
process.  I've turned down a few CCIE applicants for lack of clue myself.

S


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