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RE: [SOT Rant] Non-hostile probes / opt-in/out

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Quibell, Marc)
Fri Oct 26 15:22:08 2001

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From: "Quibell, Marc" <mquibell@icn.state.ia.us>
To: 'James Thomason' <james@divide.org>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:16:02 -0500
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Maybe you should ping NS01.ARMY.MIL about 2400 times in 3 hour and see if
you don't get a visit? Pinging a website 2 times means nothing..

Marc 



-----Original Message-----
From: James Thomason [mailto:james@divide.org]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:51 PM
To: Dan Hollis
Cc: Mike Batchelor; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: RE: [SOT Rant] Non-hostile probes / opt-in/out



PING www.army.mil (140.183.234.10): 56 data bytes
^C
--- www.army.mil ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss

Am I a terrorist now too?

On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Dan Hollis wrote:

> 
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Mike Batchelor wrote:
> > > <rant>
> > > 	Digital Island is certainly not alone in their practice of
> > > assuming an opt-in stance.
> > I think you know that for an operation like Digital Island or Akamai,
asking
> > every network operator permission to probe is for all practical
purposes,
> > impossible.  Insisting on opt-in is insisting on these companies going
out
> > of business, or not even starting up at all.
> 
> I wonder if Digital Island "probes" .mil sites.
> 
> -Dan
> -- 
> [-] Omae no subete no kichi wa ore no mono da. [-]
> 
> 

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