[37743] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Stealth Blocking
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Scott Francis)
Wed May 23 17:34:29 2001
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:12:48 -0700
From: Scott Francis <scott@virtualis.com>
To: Mitch Halmu <mitch@netside.net>
Cc: John Payne <john@sackheads.org>, nanog@merit.edu
Message-ID: <20010523131248.H189@virtualis.com>
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On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 12:41:52PM -0400, Mitch Halmu exclaimed:
>=20
> ORBS is a foreign entity. Out of reach. Vixie is ante portas. American, l=
ike
> you and me. Blackmailing American providers, breaking state and federal l=
aws=20
> with impunity. People that subscribe to the blackhole lists probably have=
no
> idea who in particular they are blocking or to what extent. Or even why.
s/blackmailing/blackholing/i - and you have to remember, Vixie isn't blocki=
ng
anybody's traffic (except for networks he operates). Individual operators t=
hat
subscribe to MAPS choose what traffic to block or not block to their own
networks. There's no blackmail there, and certainly no laws saying that I m=
ust
accept whatever traffic anybody on the Net wants to send my way.
Let's keep this argument in the bounds of reality, at least.
--=20
Scott Francis scott@ [work:] v i r t u a l i s . c o m
Systems Analyst darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t
West Coast Network Ops GPG keyid 0xCB33CCA7
illum oportet crescere me autem minui
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