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RE: UUnet trouble ticket and response time

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kevin Santamaria)
Fri Sep 29 12:39:20 2000

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From: Kevin Santamaria <kevin_santamaria@globalcrossing.com>
To: 'Craig Holland' <cholland@yahoo-inc.com>,
	Hank Nussbacher <hank@att.net.il>, nanog@merit.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:37:13 -0500
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		It's possibly the MCI WorldCom operations syndrome: "Ignore
the issue, then construct a plausible excuse if the issue does not go away!"

		Please wait for the excuse. Its coming.  -;)

		Kevin

				-----Original Message-----
				From:	Craig Holland
[mailto:cholland@yahoo-inc.com]
				Sent:	Friday, September 29, 2000 11:19 AM
				To:	Hank Nussbacher; nanog@merit.edu
				Subject:	RE: UUnet trouble ticket and
response time


				Ya...I have many circuits w/ UUNet, and I've
noticed a considerable drop in
				their 'help-desk' responce.  Hell, I don't
even get an email back anymore
				saying that they received my email.  It
seems I find routing issues before
				they do, and when I do, they don't even let
me know if they are working on
				them or anything.

				craig

				> -----Original Message-----
				> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu
[mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of
				> Hank Nussbacher
				> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 11:35
PM
				> To: nanog@merit.edu
				> Subject: UUnet trouble ticket and response
time
				>
				>
				>
				> Apologies in advance:
				>
				> Uunet placed a route object in RADB with
origin AS701, even
				> though the /24
				> belonged to us and messed up certain
routings in certain places.  So we
				> sent them the problem and got issued a
trouble ticket (UU2282116) on Sept
				> 9.  Till today, even after repeated emails
to them on this TT, we
				> received
				> not a single response over the course of 3
weeks.  In the end, MERIT went
				> in and removed the brain-dead /24 route
object.
				>
				> Is this how UUnet operates these days?
				>
				> -Hank
				>
				>
				

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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">It's possibly the MCI =
WorldCom operations syndrome: &quot;Ignore the issue, then construct a =
plausible excuse if the issue does not go away!&quot;</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">Please wait for the excuse. =
Its coming.&nbsp; -;)</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">Kevin</FONT>
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<P><A NAME=3D"_MailData"><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" =
FACE=3D"Tahoma">-----Original Message-----</FONT></A>
<BR><B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">From:&nbsp;&nbsp; Craig =
Holland [<A =
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">Ya...I have many circuits w/ =
UUNet, and I've noticed a considerable drop in</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">their 'help-desk' =
responce.&nbsp; Hell, I don't even get an email back anymore</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">saying that they received =
my email.&nbsp; It seems I find routing issues before</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">they do, and when I do, =
they don't even let me know if they are working on</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">them or anything.</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">craig</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt; -----Original =
Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt; From: =
owner-nanog@merit.edu [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu">mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu</A>]O=
n Behalf Of</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt; Hank Nussbacher</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt; Sent: Thursday, =
September 28, 2000 11:35 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt; To: =
nanog@merit.edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt; Subject: UUnet trouble =
ticket and response time</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt; Apologies in =
advance:</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt; Uunet placed a route =
object in RADB with origin AS701, even</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt; though the /24</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt; belonged to us and =
messed up certain routings in certain places.&nbsp; So we</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt; sent them the problem =
and got issued a trouble ticket (UU2282116) on Sept</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt; 9.&nbsp; Till today, =
even after repeated emails to them on this TT, we</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt; received</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt; not a single response =
over the course of 3 weeks.&nbsp; In the end, MERIT went</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt; in and removed the =
brain-dead /24 route object.</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt; Is this how UUnet =
operates these days?</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt; -Hank</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" FACE=3D"Tahoma">&gt;</FONT>
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