[22943] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Monitoring, Flow Stats (Re: spam whore, norcal-systems)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dan Hollis)
Wed Feb 3 18:26:14 1999
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:44:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Hollis <goemon@sasami.anime.net>
To: Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com>
cc: Christopher Neill <chris@verio.net>, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>,
ravi@verio.net, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19990203172707.00c204b0@odie.av8.com>
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Dean Anderson wrote:
> >Also, the privacy protection defense is almost always rejected if it
> >involves outright criminal activity eg smurfs, theft, etc.
> True. Thats where the abuse clause presumably applies. But it has to be
> criminal. UCE isn't criminal.
It is when its unauthorized relaying eg theft of service. Which almost
99.9% of spams are nowadays. Which is why most spammers are now abusing
foreign sites eg .jp, .cn, .my, etc to try to avoid prosecution. They know
its criminal but they do it anyway.
-Dan
