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Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rod Beck)
Tue Jun 20 09:51:02 2017

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From: Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>
To: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:46:43 +0000
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Exactly. But some people enjoy complaining.


- R.

________________________________
From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-=
il.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 3:41:13 PM
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees

I'm still not sure people understand the situation. There's an attendee lis=
t, but that list doesn't have e-mail addresses. It didn't come from the mai=
ling list. The person looked up who went to the conference and then found t=
heir e-mail address elsewhere. I also don't think the above is wrong in any=
 way and people should just get on with their lives.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

----- Original Message -----

From: tim@pelican.org
To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 8:37:09 AM
Subject: Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees

On Tuesday, 20 June, 2017 14:26, "Rod Beck" <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.co=
m> said:

> And how do you tell if an address was scraped or not? There are databases=
 and
> zillions of other ways of gaining addresses.
>
>
> I doubt you can distinguish the source with any real reliability.

Depending on whether you're registered with personal or corporate email, an=
d how much control you have over the platform in question, you can distingu=
ish the source with fairly high reliability. Just generate a new 'bob+nanog=
70@bobsdomain.org' style address for every event you register for, every we=
bsite that requires a contact address, every mailing list, ...

If you're concerned that people will twig, and use the naked 'bob@' address=
, you could work with multiple names including a hash that look like intern=
al nonsense, e.g. 'bob34adf@', or block the un-plussed 'bob@' entirely and =
use e.g. 'robert@' for people you trust to have your real, non-circumstance=
-specific email address.

I know people who do this, it really depends how much you care about being =
able to trace and block people who are either scraping or re-selling your d=
etails.

Regards,
Tim.




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