[194228] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Seth Mattinen)
Tue Mar 28 19:25:47 2017
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From: Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us>
To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 16:25:41 -0700
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On 3/28/17 16:08, valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 15:51:43 -0700, Seth Mattinen said:
>
>> Has there ever been a real survey that asks people where they think
>> Google gets the money to support things like Gmail for "free"?
> There's a difference. Google only gets to aggregate data you pass to Google.
> Your ISP gets to aggregate data you pass to *anybody*. The difference matters.
I know, I'm not picking on Google like the other post was, other than to
bring up that point that a lot of non-technical people don't connect
that free Gmail means something has to pay for it. When I talk to people
they have this expectation of free internet because ISPs charging for
internet access is greedy when most most everything online is free. The
internet is just a nebulous thing out there that's "free".
So ultimately you have ISPs that sell data to marketers so they can meet
the demands from sales/marketing to offer $10 gigabit internet access
with no contracts and free install.
~Seth
